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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Johnson View Post
    My biggest issue is that the game is in a way comparable to Skyrim, and yet Skyrim was a game of the year and Defiance gets crapped on. Somehow, Skyrims bugs are "endearing" but Defiance bugs cause utter hatred... I mean, I suppose in Skyrim in general you can save and reload if a bug cripples your save file... but not always. Skyrim's repetitive dungeons, reused environments, lazy encounter designs are somehow acceptable, but if Defiance reuses environment pieces or boss encounters, somehow that's some mortal sin? Main quest line of Skyrim was lazy as hell, and the civil war was an utter joke, much like the Defiance side missions (The main questline of Defiance was actually pretty solid, blew most of the story content of Skyrim out of the water IMO). Really, the only thing the game had over defiance was that going after all of the dragon shouts was addicting, but when that was done, I stopped playing the game completely. Skyrim and Defiance both have the problem of "what do you do with your powerful loot", but people say "Skyrim isn't about the end-game, it is about the journey", but somehow that isn't applicable to Defiance.

    Pretty hypocritical. Does this game have its issues? Hell yes. Many of them. But does the game really deserve a 6, when Skyrim was getting 10s? That's why numeral scores are a joke in my opinion. You can't sum everything up and say "That's how good it is". I prefer to read the words of the reviews, although I'll admit sometimes I've checked metacritic to get the jist of people's opinions if I've read the reviews and watched some gameplay videos but I'm not sure whether I'd like to get on board.

    In my opinion, I'm enjoying the game. I wouldn't recommend the game for everyone at all - I told my dad not to get the game because if you don't like shooter combat, you won't like the game, but I've recommended it to co-workers who were into sci-fi shooters, and many of them enjoy the game now.
    LMAO! Are you friggin' serious? I hope you tried to be sarcastic! I really do. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronan View Post
    Yeah.... and are the most unbiased, unbribed, educated heroes of the writing world when they would have given the game a 10/10 !

    I rest my case. Truth always hurts. I get it. Deal With it.

    I personally think they were generious giving it an almost 6/10.

    Sorry, but TRION advertises it as FPS first and MMO second blabla.... it's still an MMO+FPS... thus be prepared to be compared to other MMO's.
    And that is what is happening right now.

    Even if you compare it to other FPS games. They still blow this game out of the water PVP wise (which is the core part of FPS games. Always have been), as PVP in this game is an utter joke!

    Then.... when you start comparing it to other MMO's..... don't let me even get started. /shrug

    IGN is no different than any other gamesite out there. Sorry, but they were spot on with this game!

    And the Whole crap about how they gave COD a 9/10. It's an FPS multiplayergame! And the Multiplayer PVP part is amazing! Just like it is in Battlefield! And that's where those reviews are based on.

    IGN is known (as are many other sites) for overscoring ANY game! And as they did With DEFIANCE as well.... IGN just keeps up their fine tradition.
    Games they have given a 9 or higher:

    WAR
    WoW + all expansions
    About every CoD game
    Mass Effect 3
    All Halo games
    Guild wars 2
    SWTOR

    Hell just look at the list of games they gave 9+ to: http://www.ign.com/games/reviews?sta...=325&score=9.0

    You really think even 1/4 of those are realistic scores? I mean, WAR... seriously? I loved PvPing in WAR and still play on and off, but a 9. Boggles the mind.

    Im not saying Defiance is deserving of a 9, before that even starts. But anything under a 7, at worst a 6.5, I have to start wondering wether its something like lack of experience, personal bias, money, unrealistic expectations, or just plain stupidity (like praising WoW and SWTOR while hating on Defiance for having kill / fetch / interact quests.... are you f'ing serious here?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Johnson View Post
    Somehow, Skyrims bugs are "endearing" but Defiance bugs cause utter hatred...
    The rest of your post was tl;dr but this made me laugh. What's not to love about dead dragons falling out of the sky?

    OK I lied, I skimmed the rest. Saying Defiance's questline is "pretty solid" in comparison to Skyrim's pretty much erases for me the confusion as to why people enjoy this game so much and defend it so savagely.

    BECAUSE YOU'RE IDIOTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derity View Post
    The game doesn't really do anything to deserve more than a 6 to be honest.

    - The story and voice acting is meh.
    - Every quest is meh.
    - Graphics are meh.
    - Longevity is meh.
    + The ONLY thing Defiance gets right is the shooting mechanics.

    Don't get me wrong, everything I said "meh" to, I don't mean any of it sucks, it is just simply... meh. Not bad, not amazing, just average. So to be honest, I don't understand why anyone truly thinks this game deserves more than an average (5-6) score. I agree with IGN.

    The only difference is, I am hoping that the game will improve in the future and I'm going to be sticking it out to EGO 5000. (Currently at 2835)
    Yeah, i pretty much agree with this assessment. Game's not great, but I definitely got my money's worth and am not angry about the purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaladan View Post
    The rest of your post was tl;dr but this made me laugh. What's not to love about dead dragons falling out of the sky?

    OK I lied, I skimmed the rest. Saying Defiance's questline is "pretty solid" in comparison to Skyrim's pretty much erases for me the confusion as to why people enjoy this game so much and defend it so savagely.

    BECAUSE YOU'RE IDIOTS.
    Thanks! At least I didn't have to say it this time.

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    Everyone keeps bashing on IGN - but do you guys not realize there are a LOT of other review sites and people who have given this game a 5 or 6/10 too? Better track them all down and blast their credibility too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warkaiser View Post
    Games they have given a 9 or higher:

    WAR
    WoW + all expansions
    About every CoD game
    Mass Effect 3
    All Halo games
    Guild wars 2
    SWTOR

    Hell just look at the list of games they gave 9+ to: http://www.ign.com/games/reviews?sta...=325&score=9.0

    You really think even 1/4 of those are realistic scores? I mean, WAR... seriously? I loved PvPing in WAR and still play on and off, but a 9. Boggles the mind.

    Im not saying Defiance is deserving of a 9, before that even starts. But anything under a 7, at worst a 6.5, I have to start wondering wether its something like lack of experience, personal bias, money, unrealistic expectations, or just plain stupidity (like praising WoW and SWTOR while hating on Defiance for having kill / fetch / interact quests.... are you f'ing serious here?).
    Dude! Just go over at Metacritic and you will see that even the majority of gamers give DEFIANCE a "mediocre" score.

    Or are we now going to bash fellow gamers too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeronan View Post
    Dude! Just go over at Metacritic and you will see that even the majority of gamers give DEFIANCE a "mediocre" score.

    Or are we now going to bash fellow gamers too?
    No gamer understands the game quite as much as he does, our inferior intellect cant grasp the intricacies of getting 5000 kills for a tick in a box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anim View Post
    No gamer understands the game quite as much as he does, our inferior intellect cant grasp the intricacies of getting 5000 kills for a tick in a box.
    Genuine lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warkaiser View Post
    Games they have given a 9 or higher:

    WAR
    WoW + all expansions
    About every CoD game
    Mass Effect 3
    All Halo games
    Guild wars 2
    SWTOR

    Hell just look at the list of games they gave 9+ to: http://www.ign.com/games/reviews?sta...=325&score=9.0

    You really think even 1/4 of those are realistic scores? I mean, WAR... seriously? I loved PvPing in WAR and still play on and off, but a 9. Boggles the mind.

    Im not saying Defiance is deserving of a 9, before that even starts. But anything under a 7, at worst a 6.5, I have to start wondering wether its something like lack of experience, personal bias, money, unrealistic expectations, or just plain stupidity (like praising WoW and SWTOR while hating on Defiance for having kill / fetch / interact quests.... are you f'ing serious here?).
    And then you get all upset when people label you as a 'fanboy'.

    Lets ignore IGN for a second still 15 critics/review sites have given Defiance mediocre scores. With 2 negative and 3 to 4 positive. IGN is just one of many and they didn't even outright called it a horrible game. They called it an average MMO with potential.

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