Who else has quit this game?

[Rincewind]

bump......

[DeMoted]

If you quit the game then you don't need to be here. Just makes you look stupid.

[Capitaldzilla]

Sounds like your getting every possible bug, and I doubt many ppl quit who actually enjoy the game. Iwould suggest making sure you have decent internet connection. A wired connection is usually optimal for mmo's.

Yeah, I agree with this statement

[Cerne]

Yea they kill the little ones which then in turn makes destroying the crystal harder/longer for us that actually understand what were doing.

Actually there are several pursuits to kill 1000-2500 enemies during a major arkfall this pursuit is bugged IF you keep switching arkfalls between scrappers and hellbugs your counter resets BUT if you stick with one type of major arkfall it won't reset. i am ego lvl 1761 now and have done the above pursuit via hellbugs i would take cluster ground pounder grenade launchers and kill all the skitterlings i know im a jerk for it BUT there is a reason why people kill the skitterlings.

[Trusouljah]

This games been screwed from the start, take a look around fan boys, its just you and the other fannys that have high hopes on this game. Any competitive player, would take a look at this game and see it offers nothing competitive wise. End game sucks, shadow war is broken, and I doubt it will even come close to being fixed. No one even plays shadow war, and to ask a community to almost wait a month after release to fix issues that were addressed in beta. Tells you right there Trihard don't give a flying **** about this game. If anything they gave birth to their baby and dropped its on its head. Good luck waiting for results and broken promises. Like I really wanna play pve and coop for a month and hope tri hard fix's sw and pvp. Thats a lot to ask a customer to wait for. An with a 150 man team what is Tri hard gonna accomplish in 3 weeks more f up's? Please Trion, Tri Hard to not be the laughing stock of the worst mmo ever developed. Deadpool is right btw.

[DanBowie]

Been playing since it came out and now it's finally annoying. I turned it off until its fixed. Bullets go right through people, weapons disappearing, no keycodes, pursuits not completing, can't talk to friends or anyone in co-op/pvp, hackers, no capture and hold, etc. Sadly I feel I wasted my time with this game.

Wo else has stopped playing?

I have because of all this and more. No end game, no clan matches, no raids and 1 game mode and 2 maps and glitches galore.

[Omychakra]

LOL its a MMO there is NO endgame its not CoD.

Wow, no offense, this is the most ignorant statement I've ever read in my entire life browsing forums. Seriously, you've clearlynever played an MMO. You've relinquished your credibility pertaining to any MMO discussion and should really see yourself out the forum door because this is incredibly ignorant and misleading. An MMO is ONLY as good as its endgame. I can't stress enough, how over-the-top dumb this statement is.

This game has slight potential but just slight. Every year we're less and less forgiving of a miserable launch like this. You can't compare this to WoW at launch because that was NINE years ago. This is NINE freaking years later and this game is LESS polished, more buggy, more broken, and more lacking in content than MMOs made 9+ years ago? This launch was embarrassing, anyone excusing it or calling it "The norm for MMOs" has simply not played enough MMOs. They should be learning from those mistakes, not committing worse offenses.

Where this game ultimately fails is zero community options. Mics are so limited and restricted that you basically end up making a task out of simply hearing your group mates. And even then only for a short matter of time. Virtually no group quests or more difficult quests that encourage teaming up. Arkfalls are fun but silly and easy. This game offers no challenge, requires no skill, rewards no teamwork, and encourages none of the community aspects that makes an MMO successful. Questing is extremely flawed and limited and discourages you from randomly grouping with buddies as you level up. There has never been a successful MMO model, in history, that doesn't feature PROGRESSIVE loot. The fans of this game are usually the loudest ones on the forums and give the false illusion that people are "Content" with the experience, but this has clearly been a disastrous first month for the game that could spell its doom before it survives a year.

I hope they figure it out. This game could be so fun. Fix the ridiculous voice issues, make loot more progressive, fix the endless crippling bugs. Anyone who thinks its a GOOD thing that you can jump right in and compete with top level players, have clearly never been a part of a successful MMO community before. There is no potential to survive when you don't reward your hardcore players with rewards that distinguish them from an hour-a-day guy, or a new player. I got a lucky legendary Rifle on one of my first 10 Tier 2 boxes around ego 36 and I'm still using it at ego 796. Its sickening.

The bugs are also insane. My screens almost always take 5-10 seconds to load during Arkfalls (Which makes switching loadouts mid-fight next to impossible sometimes), so many random disconnects, enemies and players can take minutes to pop up despite their presence on your radar, the voice issues, I even have to close my character screen and reopen it for each loadout I want to replace a grenade for (as in, if I change loadout 1's grenade, then try Loadout 2's, Loadout 2 will keep reverting back to the previous grenade until I close and reopen the menu). Enemies losing track of players standing right in sight, disgusting enemy AI that reaches your proximity but somehow misses their melee when you back up? I can fight a Hellbug Monarch at lvl 1 with a white rifle and never ever come close to getting attacked simply by backpedaling (and easily sidestepping the roll/stomp). When an enemy reaches melee and stops to swing, you should not be able to simply step away. Strictly melee mobs are literally harmless (Like cleavers) by virtue of backpedaling. Less of a bug and more of a terrible design decision.

This is one of the smallest MMOs ever released at launch, the lack of end-game content is borderline staggering and you truly can accomplish virtually every single bit of content the game offers within 4-5 days.

Theres innovation, and theres simply missing the mark. Most of the design decisions unique to Defiance missed the mark. The developers have a choice to make this game a quick cash cow that dies this year, or a genuine front-runner in the console-MMO landscape. It will take incredible amounts of time and manpower to fix the endless list of bugs and flaws plaguing this game. I truly think they might just accept they shipped it with way too many bugs and simply milk the game long enough to honor their season pass commitments. This game was just a greedy backhanded slap to our faces, this was not ready for launch or ready to justify a 60 dollar purchase (let alone the endless encouragement to spend additional real money). This game is a brilliant business model but I truly sense no concern from the developers regarding player satisfaction.


TLDR, I know. I like to make my first post a good one

[nosworc]

Wow, no offense, this is the most ignorant statement I've ever read in my entire live browsing forums. Seriously, you have no clue what you're talking about, and clearly have never played an MMO. You've relinquished your credibility pertaining to any MMO discussion and should really see yourself out the forum door because this is incredibly ignorant and misleading. An MMO is ONLY as good as its endgame. I can't stress enough, how over-the-top clueless you are.

This game has slight potential but just slight. Every year we're less and less forgiving of a miserable launch like this. Every year is another year for developers to understand whats successful in the MMO genre, you can't compare this to WoW at launch because that was NINE years ago. This is NINE freaking years later and this game is LESS polished, more buggy, more broken, and more lacking in content than MMOs made 9+ years ago? This launch was embarrassing, anyone excusing it or calling it "The norm for MMOs" has simply not played enough MMOs.

Where this game ultimately fails is zero community options. Mics are so limited and restricted that you basically end up making a task out of simply hearing your group mates. And even then only for a short matter of time. Virtually no group quests or more difficult quests that encourage teaming up. Arkfalls are fun but silly and easy. This game offers no challenge, requires no skill, rewards no teamwork, and encourages none of the community aspects that makes an MMO successful. Questing is extremely flawed and limited and discourages you from randomly grouping with buddies as you level up. There has never been a successful MMO model, in history, that doesn't feature PROGRESSIVE loot. The fans of this game are usually the loudest ones on the forums and give the false illusion that people are "Content" with the experience, but this has clearly been a disastrous first month for the game that could spell its doom before it survives a year. This game has -zero- potential if the progression isn't updated to better reward higher levels.

I hope they figure it out. This game could be so fun. Fix the ridiculous voice issues, make loot more progressive (IF you spend about 200 hours focusing on one gun type and finding perfect mods for it, you might make that 1 single gun about 5-7% more effective all around. Thats our progression. Wow, what a great payoff). Anyone who thinks its a GOOD thing that you can jump right in and compete with top level players, have clearly never been a part of a successful MMO community before. There is no potential to survive when you don't reward your hardcore players with rewards that distinguish them from an hour-a-day guy, or a new player. I got a lucky legendary Rifle on one of my first 10 Tier 2 boxes around ego 36 and I'm still using it at ego 796. Its sickening. I've never in my life played a game with so many loot tiers with so little variation between them. They copied WoW and countless other games with the White < Green < Blue < Purple < Orange progression path yet they forgot to make the guns any stronger from one tier to the next. Adding mods and special affects is a cheesy alternative to the higher damage we're supposed to simply expect from an orange quality item. These mods and affects (Even the very best in the game) can't do quite enough to make you feel as powerful as you should for the time you've invested. Really it doesn't even come close.

This is one of the smallest MMOs ever released at launch, the lack of end-game content is borderline staggering and you truly can accomplish virtually every single bit of content the game offers within 4-5 days.

Theres innovation, and theres simply missing the mark. Most of the design decisions unique to Defiance missed the mark. The developers have a choice to make this game a quick cash cow that dies this year, or a genuine front-runner in the console-MMO landscape. It will take incredible amounts of time and manpower to fix the endless list of bugs and flaws plaguing this game. I truly think they might just accept they shipped it with way too many bugs and simply milk the game long enough to honor their season pass commitments. This game was just a greedy backhanded slap to our faces, this was not ready for launch or ready to justify a 60 dollar purchase. I'll play until the first patch and if it disappoints, I'll be out with a smile.

Pretty much nailed it, wait for the "it's not an mmorpg" comments to roll in.

[uninhabitableheart]

Not me, still having a blast.

• Bullets going through people sounds like either lag or a bug that needs to be reported.
• Weapons disappearing is definitely a bug that you should put a support ticket in for
• "No keycodes" is part of the patch that we haven't even gotten yet so you can't be quitting yet because of that
• Which pursuits aren't completing? Have others reported the same thing and Trion is aware of it? Have you submitted a bug report/support ticket for what you've encountered specifically?
• I was doing Explosions 101 last night, people heard me just fine and on the second run, I heard the one other person in the group with a mic just fine
• Hackers? In the PS3 section you're complaining about hackers? You either mean people using as yet unpatched exploits or... idk
• Cap and Hold is a good point, I want that playable as well

I want to be clear I do think this game needs work as do all MMOs when they first launch, but it's still pretty damn fun for me personally. Say you're taking a break and you'll try again after your complaints are addressed, it makes more sense.

Yup.

Players that are familiar with new MMOs are taking this in stride, whereas those who are purely console gamers are losing their minds. That's what I'm seeing anyways. The funny part is a year from now when new players resurrect these old threads by arguing with antiquated complaints

[FNL4EVA23]

Wow, no offense, this is the most ignorant statement I've ever read in my entire life browsing forums. Seriously, you've clearlynever played an MMO. You've relinquished your credibility pertaining to any MMO discussion and should really see yourself out the forum door because this is incredibly ignorant and misleading. An MMO is ONLY as good as its endgame. I can't stress enough, how over-the-top dumb this statement is.

This game has slight potential but just slight. Every year we're less and less forgiving of a miserable launch like this. You can't compare this to WoW at launch because that was NINE years ago. This is NINE freaking years later and this game is LESS polished, more buggy, more broken, and more lacking in content than MMOs made 9+ years ago? This launch was embarrassing, anyone excusing it or calling it "The norm for MMOs" has simply not played enough MMOs. They should be learning from those mistakes, not committing worse offenses.

Where this game ultimately fails is zero community options. Mics are so limited and restricted that you basically end up making a task out of simply hearing your group mates. And even then only for a short matter of time. Virtually no group quests or more difficult quests that encourage teaming up. Arkfalls are fun but silly and easy. This game offers no challenge, requires no skill, rewards no teamwork, and encourages none of the community aspects that makes an MMO successful. Questing is extremely flawed and limited and discourages you from randomly grouping with buddies as you level up. There has never been a successful MMO model, in history, that doesn't feature PROGRESSIVE loot. The fans of this game are usually the loudest ones on the forums and give the false illusion that people are "Content" with the experience, but this has clearly been a disastrous first month for the game that could spell its doom before it survives a year.

I hope they figure it out. This game could be so fun. Fix the ridiculous voice issues, make loot more progressive, fix the endless crippling bugs. Anyone who thinks its a GOOD thing that you can jump right in and compete with top level players, have clearly never been a part of a successful MMO community before. There is no potential to survive when you don't reward your hardcore players with rewards that distinguish them from an hour-a-day guy, or a new player. I got a lucky legendary Rifle on one of my first 10 Tier 2 boxes around ego 36 and I'm still using it at ego 796. Its sickening.

The bugs are also insane. My screens almost always take 5-10 seconds to load during Arkfalls (Which makes switching loadouts mid-fight next to impossible sometimes), so many random disconnects, enemies and players can take minutes to pop up despite their presence on your radar, the voice issues, I even have to close my character screen and reopen it for each loadout I want to replace a grenade for (as in, if I change loadout 1's grenade, then try Loadout 2's, Loadout 2 will keep reverting back to the previous grenade until I close and reopen the menu). Enemies losing track of players standing right in sight, disgusting enemy AI that reaches your proximity but somehow misses their melee when you back up? I can fight a Hellbug Monarch at lvl 1 with a white rifle and never ever come close to getting attacked simply by backpedaling (and easily sidestepping the roll/stomp). When an enemy reaches melee and stops to swing, you should not be able to simply step away. Strictly melee mobs are literally harmless (Like cleavers) by virtue of backpedaling. Less of a bug and more of a terrible design decision.

This is one of the smallest MMOs ever released at launch, the lack of end-game content is borderline staggering and you truly can accomplish virtually every single bit of content the game offers within 4-5 days.

Theres innovation, and theres simply missing the mark. Most of the design decisions unique to Defiance missed the mark. The developers have a choice to make this game a quick cash cow that dies this year, or a genuine front-runner in the console-MMO landscape. It will take incredible amounts of time and manpower to fix the endless list of bugs and flaws plaguing this game. I truly think they might just accept they shipped it with way too many bugs and simply milk the game long enough to honor their season pass commitments. This game was just a greedy backhanded slap to our faces, this was not ready for launch or ready to justify a 60 dollar purchase (let alone the endless encouragement to spend additional real money). This game is a brilliant business model but I truly sense no concern from the developers regarding player satisfaction.


TLDR, I know. I like to make my first post a good one

Perfect nice to see others standing up with me now. I want my promised ce content and refund on bits i bought and lost cause of servers. cs wont help they lied to me and catching them in a lie does not help get what i paid for. cs made this game nightmare even worse tickets are a joke to.