Why the bad reviews??

[UHaveN0skill]

thank you trion and to all the naysayer /facepalm

this post fully complies with the forums code of conduct i have read and confirmed this via code of conduct assuming im allowed to use the company name of trion of course lol

none of what i have said here is directed at any member or post of this forum and or one reviewer or entity /company ect. this is a simply point of view directed at no one person or entity






i am also trully disappointed by the reviews this game has gotten and the endless complaints i have seen on forums and in reviews.

the fact is that the gaming community today has become cynical,hypocritical and downright ignorant. its as if the community is a 90 year old man stuck in his ways. if the game isn't a clone of something they know (cod,WoW,ect) they aren't happy. i remember the days when we were happy just to have a new title.

in many of the reviews i have seen ppl making comments on things they think defiance lacks based on other mmos/3d shooters.

let me make one thing clear to all of you, this game isn't you common mmo. it isn't your common shooter. this isn't your common 3rd person shooter. this isn't anything you've seen before "so stop trying to compare it to anything else!".

just because this game has a mmo pedigree doesn't mean you can make that type of comparison.

" that's right I'm talking to you (insert game reviewer here______) , and all the other so called gaming authorities out there " none of you have any real credentials to speak of so when i hear some of these comments/reviews it makes me laugh it really does.

not to mention the fact that the gaming press has become immensely corrupt. through corporate sponsorship and back room clubs the true heart of this reporting has been broken beyond repair

putting all of this aside lets look at the facts.

i personally can count the on 1 hand the mmos that have ever been put on a console

so all you naysayers out there should be thanking your lucky stars for Trion

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moving on lets list the true pros and cons here

not the ignorant crap from (insert reviewer here _______) and all these other prepubescent morons out there reviewing this game from their limited tunnel vision.

Pros:

1) first true original open world mmo on consoles to-date

2) its a new IP with a TV show tie-in which promises to added new content as the show progresses. not to mention the show is pretty decent, with a line up of familiar actors. i personally enjoyed the show and have watched it many times.

3) no other game in history can say they have done anything close to #2 on this list of pros lol

4) the combat is solid most shooters especially mmo shooters get that wrong in some way or another.
98% of the reviews i have read and watched (i read and watched about 40 or so ) have stated that same opinion so kudos trion (home run!!)

and in my opinion combat is the single most important thing in any shooter. all other things are just cream

5) 64 vs 64 pvp on a consoles and its a shooter to boot ..... enough said (Trion drops the mic and walks off the stage ) every other competitive multi-player game on consoles just got punked trion hit a home run with this one

6) the game has a gun that spawns bugs in your head and then they eat you alive rofl!!!!! if that doesn't sell you on defiance you don't have a pulse

7) dynamic cooperative world events...... enough said

8) guns guns guns and O wait.......... more guns!!!!!! its like well you know what game has 10000 million guns it start with a B but in this game u actually care about your gear because there is real pvp element not just some dueling system lol

9) a skill tree that actually makes sense. for a mmo thats the holy grail ... even the granddaddy of mmos which will not be name because of forum rules but we know who it is i have a lvl 85 rogue lol gets that wrong lol (home run Trion!!!)

10)the games not done yet if rift is any kind of indication we have much more content to come.

11) in my opinion trion wil support this game with patchs and updates that will satisfy even the most extreme critics


Cons:

1) bugs/glitchs/ exploits........ you know what you crybabies its a new mmo i have never seen a mmo that didnt have these problems at the start.... your just making your selves look stupid by crying about it

2) Non-coherent and spacey story line/ lore .... i never played Wow for the story line and any one that did was a big geek thats right i said it your down right freaks so get over it. the show is there to tell the story and that obvious to any one thats paying attention. so watch the show period!

3) repetitive game content (example) enemies, arkfall events, quest structure ect. ........after 15 + yrs of gaming i have yet to find a mmo style game that wasn't repetitive in some way Ie. the biggest mmo that we all know the name of has all kinds of repetitive crap not to mention Korean mmos that amount to one huge grind fest.

repetitive content is just part of the genre so if you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen.

4) frustrating UI ... well its a mmo on a consoles meant to be played on a console so for all you pc gamers out there shut your mouth and go buy a controller.

5) problematic chat system and shooty voice chat .... i 100% agree with this gripe... just fix it trion this is unacceptable in a game of this nature you need to have easy communication in a mmo period. and we shouldn't have to use clan chat or use 3rd party systems

6) lack luster Graphics..... ok hold on let me get my slapping stick back out ....i have heard about 40 different complaints about this in reviews/videos ect. and you know what its just .

im not sure what ppl are comparing this to but as far as mmos go these gfx are right on par with what you would expect. its a multi platform game sacrifices have to be made period.

7) no real end game.....well duh stupid!!!.... the brand new mmo tied into a new show doesn't have a end game..... lol wow im so surprised!...i swear some ppl are just so stupid they should be sterilized.

8) stupid AI .....rofl its a mmo i cant think of one mmo that has smart AI i mean you may think its smart but that just makes you stupid

the game has smart bosses for the most part and thats pretty much in line with every game out there so just be quiet crybabies.

9) framrate issues ...100% agree im not sure what you can do about this trion the engine is alrdy on the disc but you need to try something.

10 ) problematic party system and quest sharing ....100% agree fix it please we need something that is more intuitive. the current system makes it hard to play with friends... dont get me wrong its not all bad but it could use a little polish

11)no social areas ... big towns ect. ok i agree with this one too we need a place to gather trade sell stuff and just be mmo frobs give us a market or a auction house or a nightclub or something

12) lag ..... yup agree with this one too i have a 100 meg line i don't lag in anything unless its the games fault so yes 100% agree you need to fix the server matrix and boost the bandwidth trion this is unacceptable when its ur fault especially in shadow wars and pvp

well thats it for my pros and cons. i can say this... the game has gotten a bad rap because ppl are comparing it to games that frankly it cant be compared to.

i think trion gave us a great gift and judging from rift they will make this game BA eventually. rift started out rough and then cleaned up real nice so i have faith in trion and i for one am a fan.

a open world mmo on a console...... say what!!!!????!!! high five trion !!!


so you keep your head up trion/dev team you guys did something truly great here

and for all those haters out there that have rated this game at less then excellent .....well . your all a bunch of ignorant and cynical ppl you wouldnt know a good game if i hit you in the face with it


let me also apologize for any punctuation or grammar errors i wrote this from my phone while i was walking so i didn't really take the time to worry about that stuff sry i hope you were able to follow me anyways lol

and you know what now that i think about it....... any one that wants to gripe about that. get over it

well im off to go buy 2 more copies of the game+full dlc for both so i can play with the kids enjoy my $200+ trion you earned it.

and i suggest the rest of you haters do the same your missing out on something truly great

[basis]

To think this whole thread is because someone got mad at IGN for giving this game a mediocre review. Their review is based on the product at hand is it not? They gave it a middle of the road score. What would you guys hating on them actually score the game? Had I bought this off of a review that gave it a 9 i would be pissed at that review. In it's current state, at tops I would have given it a 6.5. Something new shouldn't get a high score just for being new.

[SuPeR X AnGeR]

It got a bad review due to the state it was in at release, when IGN would have reviewed it. I'm sure in a few months time, the rating WOULD be slightly different, but it probably is going to stay rated as it is, since nobody is going to come back and review it again, except maybe the OXM, since they occasionally go back and re-review games' online capabilities.

[Scipio]

personally, i'm a "try the demo first" kind of person. But in some cases, including defiance, when no demo is available(i didn't play the beta), i usually go with Game Informer's reviews. To me, the seem fair about their reviews, so i trust them. But in this case, i was excited to play an MMO on a console, and defiance caught my eye. That and the fact it's got a tv show really drew me in.

[Benevolent Mutation]

Here is my review, hope it helps.


YES!!! THIS GAME IS AWESOME, NOW GO BUY IT! 8/10


How did I do? XD

[Nintenja]

Gaming website race to be first. Though with all the years that have pasted. They have yet to learn how to properly review and rate an MMO.

"Launch week was laggy, game sucks, waaaah."

[defiant]

i dont get the hooplah about high prices, The high priced outfits are available through heavy pursuits, lol. Im still enjoying the game tons for team grinds, I will however admit that if outfits are to play the role or atleast part of/ the progression in the game than the fact that everyones a cloned low texture survivalist is offputting knowing we work so hard for the gear. The loot grind is a good accompaniment but if pursuits dont turn into something more current and continuous, than a community striving for the same final outfit isn't gonna have alot to talk about between arkfalls. I dont mind sidequest grinding but i find it odd so many have such different names..should implement some quest suppliers to eliminate the oddity of similar quests spread apart only differing 1000, 2000 xp

[iN4 Hitman]

IGN reviews are always terrible and predictable. COD, Halo, Gears 9/10 or 10/10..... Other great games 8/10. That's not a site I go to to get game reviews. Learned that early on!

[exlaxe01]

Well Its already been said. But i'll say it again

The game is missing content. People who have been playing from day one of release are extremely bored from the constant grinding with little reward. Players need a REASON to grind. Thats what MMO s are about.

I can handle the bugs... enemies shooting through walls, invisible enemies, ect. All that stuff can be fixed. But unless they make the game more in depth and add more MMO content (like a banking system for loot, an auction hall, a crafting system) Nothing will change and the game will remain a flop.

Which might just happen... They have your money. We aren't paying for online play, so obviously they aren't making any more money off of you. Why would they pay programmers to make new content for a game that isn't bringing in any more money. That's BASIC economics.

The game was fun. I like defiance... its just.... boring now. Fix your b.s.

[knighttwin1]

It only because the game still has plenty of bugs to work out some very minor and some very major. I do agree with you though becasue it does deserve more like a 7.5 or 8. I've been enjoying this game since launch and I even admit I'm quite addicted to it.