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    Senior Member nosworc's Avatar
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    Defiance needs loot tables.

    I dont see the point in doing Co-ops anymore and having this replayable missions in the upcoming patch just seems pointless to me as well.
    Maybe if the bosses actually dropped loot when you killed them i would enter them much more frequently.
    Im stuck in a loop since i completed the main storyline and dont know what to do now, at least in other mmo's i could work on gearing up my toon but cant do diddly squat in this.

    It might sound like im bashing this game, im not but it's frustrating the hell out of me that after investing all the hours i have so far into this game and i dont feel anymore powerful than when i started.

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    or at least more unique rewards like the one from nolan and the pistol from last mission would be nice
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    Use lockboxes and keep killing stuff to get better gear.

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    Senior Member nosworc's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninX View Post
    Use lockboxes and keep killing stuff to get better gear.
    I have and do use Lockboxes, i have no choice. That's my point, it gets slightly boring doing the same things for keys to then use them and get three crappy greens.
    Yes i know mmo's are all about doing the same thing, the difference is every other mmo has drops from bosses, which in my opinion is a way better system.
    An example of this was when i was tanking on my warrior way back in wow and i wanted a certain weapon from a certain boss. (The sun eater, if anybody knows what that is kudos ) My point being that when it finally did drop for me i was so freaking pumped.
    There is none of that so far in Defiance, no weapons are stronger than others (yes yes i know thats what mods are for) The whole point of an mmo to keep people playing is the Loot, that's it.
    Running Co-ops is just boring as hell with no loot system, i come out at the end with a bunch of whites and greens that i either sell or break down for lockbox key currency.

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    I'm enjoying the game alot but the OP is raising some very good points. I dom't see much longevity in the game past the storylines at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoninX View Post
    Use lockboxes and keep killing stuff to get better gear.
    gear is barely any better. there's no real progression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky2514 View Post
    or at least more unique rewards like the one from nolan
    Yeah I never got this special assault rifle players got for completing the last of the episode missions. During the cutscene in which Nolan gives it to you, I lost my connection to the server and when I logged back in it wasn't in my inventory or claim items. What is the name of this particular gun?

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    Seeing as any boss from any co op instance cna drop pretty much anything, I do not think there are specific loot tables like there are for Borderlands, etc. defiance is a different animal in regards to loot.

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    yeah the only reason I go through them now is if I have contracts to do....that's it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verios44 View Post
    Seeing as any boss from any co op instance cna drop pretty much anything, I do not think there are specific loot tables like there are for Borderlands, etc. defiance is a different animal in regards to loot.
    EMC XAR-22 for me at least.

    Also, I can totally get behind loot tables. I'd even go so far as to have different factions have a higher chance to drop their style of weaponry. Mutants drop EMC/VBI labeled weaponry, Raiders and 99ers have FRC labeled, and Dark Matter are all about VOT. You could get other stuff but you have a higher chance for that type of gear from that specific enemy.

    This may be in the pipes but anything really to encourage going to co-op missions other then completing the pursuit and doing the contract.

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