What they got right, the gunplay and co-op.

[ANTIDEAD]

I think some people just can't understand that coop isn't just the coop missions, it's running into a random person in the open world and fighting alongside them. That's something barely any shooters have and Trion should be commended for making it a reality.

[Schwa]

I think some people just can't understand that coop isn't just the coop missions, it's running into a random person in the open world and fighting alongside them. That's something barely any shooter have and Trion should be commended for making it a reality.

Yes, absolutely. What they should not be commended for is failing to provide a co-op challenge at any point in the game.

I'm fine with casual shoot-and-stroll instances, but that does not excuse the lack of a "harder mode" or a few instances that actually require teamwork. The novelty of just being able to shoot-and-stroll with other people wears off quickly.

[RegularX]

I have never wiped. My group has never failed. For co-op to be considered a challenge, my group should have failed at least occasionally.

As for fun, I haven't denied that. It's an amusing diversion (short-lived) but it is not a co-op challenge.

Nobody here was calling coop a hardcore challenge. Nobody. We are calling fun. - if you find it fun , welcome to the thread

[Schwa]

Nobody here was calling coop a hardcore challenge. Nobody. We are calling fun. - if you find it fun , welcome to the thread

Nor am I saying we need a hardcore challenge. I am saying there is no co-op challenge. For "fun" to last longer than the "this is neat" phase, it needs to come with sufficient challenge.

This is why godmode in games gets boring quickly.

[jvp]

Co-op is definitely fun when it actually works, which seems to be about 50% of the time.