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    Quote Originally Posted by RegularX View Post
    Skyrim shipped with a bug that would not let you finish the game. That's pretty impactful.

    Skyrim would grind down to being unplayable on the PS3 for some players. The IGN reviewer replicated this - but of course didn't change the review. That's pretty impactful.

    Dragons were, you know, kind of a big deal in the game. Path left then unplayable for a good long time. That's pretty impactful.

    Bethesda's errors are myriad, well documented and go waaaaay beyond your video drivers.

    I feel for the PC players on this game, especially for last night. But saying Bethesda gets a free pass while Defiance should get logged is pure fanboyism.
    What are all these bugs you are talking about? I had 0 problems with the pc version, i think you just like makeing stuff up. And as far as trion, rift had smooth launch and it is a good game, i can not even beleave the same company released this game as bad as it is. So the whole its a MMO crap dosent fly, since trion already released a good MMO in rift.

    All i know is that every single person that i play rift with and has tried Def. has said its garbage. Crappy story, crappy pvp, bad acting, buggy i mean the list goes on.

    Maybe they will get redeemed with archage, i personally feel they just have taken on to much, and your seeing it in this game.

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    I know for me Archage went from a Day 1 pick up to a wait and see based on this. Trion had a huge amount of good will from me, and they have squandered that pretty fully.

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    Skyrim wipes the floor with Defiance but saying it ran flawlessly is a flat out damn lie. Especially on an old *** console. I have the much superior PC version and it never was "flawless". Get that nonsense outta here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonDav View Post
    Skyrim wipes the floor with Defiance but saying it ran flawlessly is a flat out damn lie. Especially on an old *** console. I have the much superior PC version and it never was "flawless". Get that nonsense outta here...
    Yeah, if Skyrim was a flawless product at launch - someone should really let Bethesda know, considering they're still fixing memory and performance issues across the board.

    And again - I'm not comparing the two. If I did - I'd say that I had a lot of fun with Skyrim, but I found a lot of the quest breaking and the eventual performance issues really frustrating. Defiance has a lot of bugs, but even the PC-only one day rollback bug is nothing like knowingly shipping what Bethesda did with the PS3. I'm having fun with it, but it is a very different kind of fun.

    My point is that I think this reviewer was spot on to call Trion out on releasing a buggy game. I don't care if it is an MMO or not. It's the game that shipped, it shipped buggy - reviews should reflect that. If reviews did that fairly, which they don't, then Defiance getting reviews in the 6 point range would be seen in the right light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin CarMichael View Post
    I know for me Archage went from a Day 1 pick up to a wait and see based on this. Trion had a huge amount of good will from me, and they have squandered that pretty fully.
    Same for me. While the base idea of Defiance is fun, that doesn't excuse the drop in quality from Trion. I have no reason to expect anything but a typical MMO crash and burn launch from Archage with the new Trion behind it.

    Rift told me things could launch better. Defiance was just "LOL LETS JUST CRAP DIS OUT"

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    I stopped giving reviews any stock 20 years ago when dances with wolves got two thumbs down.

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    So far this game is a joke. It's an unfinished product, it's basically what I've played in alpha on January.
    Devs said back then : the release version will be awesome, what you are testing in alpha it's just a sample. And, lol, it's not. It's almost the very same alpha client.
    Same broken product but now with a sXXXitload of cheaters. And speaking of cheaters..devs said back then: rest assure, defiance is server side calculated (not...).
    When the show will die, this game will die. And the show is average ( and by average I mean 2 seasons at the highest ). In 2015 no one will even remember this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinji Ex View Post
    The Bad

    Depressing array of bugs intrude on almost every aspect of play

    Response: True but Skyrim was pretty buggy "still can be" yet it got high review scores...
    plus PS3 version of Defiance is more stable

    The shooting lacks a sense of power

    Response: Pointing & shooting feels good to me fun & addictive it's nothing special but it works

    Wonderless world and story

    Response: Not sure what that even means is that bad or good?

    Jumpy frame rates

    Response: Nope must be your PC that you reviewed the game on

    Unbalanced difficulty in story missions.

    Response: Play all side missions first before attempting story missions
    Did you watch the video review, because he actually was fair and balanced and was right on the money about everything!
    The most Accurate Review To Date! IGN Review on Defiance watch the Video!
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/...eview-xbox-360

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