If You Love Us, Please Make Shotguns Go Away

[DeMoted]

I make shotguns cry.

[The Oncoming Storm]

1 more thing Decoys are awful. if you swap places with them I could almost guarantee someone is waiting for you.

No duh Sherlock they're watching your decoy because you can warp to it...
If someone's paying more attention to they decoy than to you, KILL THEM.

[Schnibbly]

You are welcome to try if you so desire. Blur would work in a sense yes. It would also give the person a fighting chance to defend themselves. Rather than just moan and fall over dead. Decoy? Possibly but it isn't hard to spot a decoy considering they just stand still. If they made them fire however...that would be different. Cloaking and sprinting is something that shouldn't be allowed. What game do you know where stealthing allows full movement without some sort of extra bonus ability? None? Ok then. This game should be no different and people will always complain about it if it continues to stay that way. Say what you like, it is a balance issue. As for LMG not being able to come out on top? It is one of the more damaging weapons in the game and can mow down multiple people from a distance or close range. I was only killed when the cloaking shotgunners started. Which was a minute after shadowwars began.

I am not discussing myskill however and am trying to point out that cloak is broken regardless of how you slice the pie.

With blur your not invisible no.. but when you can close the distance with a dramatic speed increase, even able to jump over other players heads forcing them to turn around, SHOTGUNS will win.

With Decoy you can be spotted a bit away, send your Decoy toward them which will act as an extra shield, it ALSO teleports you to it..which then you use your shotty up close...

Your little comment "you can try" is funny in itself seeing as how I use Blur + shotty and will destroy you if you were using an LMG but my other post still stands, if any1 can beat me with any combo of skills + wep except for shotty i'll give you 10k Scrip and an Orange wep

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It will be in SW away from other points, just me and you, we start 75 meters away. Whenever YOU fire your weapon we will begin.

[Warkaiser]

You are welcome to try if you so desire. Blur would work in a sense yes. It would also give the person a fighting chance to defend themselves. Rather than just moan and fall over dead. Decoy? Possibly but it isn't hard to spot a decoy considering they just stand still. If they made them fire however...that would be different. Cloaking and sprinting is something that shouldn't be allowed. What game do you know where stealthing allows full movement without some sort of extra bonus ability? None? Ok then. This game should be no different and people will always complain about it if it continues to stay that way. Say what you like, it is a balance issue. As for LMG not being able to come out on top? It is one of the more damaging weapons in the game and can mow down multiple people from a distance or close range. I was only killed when the cloaking shotgunners started. Which was a minute after shadowwars began.

I am not discussing myskill however and am trying to point out that cloak is broken regardless of how you slice the pie.

Just 2 off the top of my head:

WAR
RF Online

Both have stealth with full speed, no extra abilities needed.

I know there are several others out there that Ive played, just cant recall them at the moment. Rohan might be one, cant remember if assassins were full speed or not for sure, i think so though.

[Skydon]

I don't use decoys like you think. I send them into a corner of the map and charge into a building, as soon as I get shot swap place. Needless to say its funny watching them sweating to kill a decoy.

[Dist0rt3d Hum0r]

Dist0rt3d hum0r knows what's up.

Thank you.

All it takes really is some thinking outside the box. Mod a weapon to do something that you never thought it would be able to do, such as sniping with an LMG. Buddy of mine took a FRC Heavy Assault Carbine and modded it into a 3 shot burst. It outdamages my Saw, and my Saw wrecks house. The only advantage that I have over him is clip size. Reloading gets him killed. xD

On the note of swapping places with a decoy. I've often thought of pairing that with a close range weapon, like a shotgun or mazu blast rifle with syphon. High risk/reward sort of thing. A catalyst injector with a mazu's high rate of fire, I imagine, would make syphon trigger quite frequently. If paired with a good timed decoy swap, IE, before the opponent gets there (if you can see him that is), then you can likely take them by surprise. After all, who uses a decoy to get into the line of fire? Cloakers would still be a problem, though minute at best.

EDIT: Tank type perks as well as a high capacity shield would of course be a must.

[The Oncoming Storm]

I don't use decoys like you think. I send them into a corner of the map and charge into a building, as soon as I get shot swap place. Needless to say its funny watching them sweating to kill a decoy.

I do the same thing when i'm being chased by shotguners i cover my area in grenades then right before i detonate i swap with the decoy and kill everyone...
also Bio grenades and grenade launchers are great fun.

[fang1192]

Just 2 off the top of my head:

WAR
RF Online

Both have stealth with full speed, no extra abilities needed.

I know there are several others out there that Ive played, just cant recall them at the moment. Rohan might be one, cant remember if assassins were full speed or not for sure, i think so though.

How were they implemented and how were they countered? In this game Cloak wipes you off the face of the Earth after 3 - 4 seconds. If there was a predator visual gleam, or a reliable counter then full stealth at full speed is fine.

[The Oncoming Storm]

Thank you.

No problem,
I'm just glad some people still listen to reason.

Oh and weapon mods are jeking awesome especially for GL and LMGs

[Schnibbly]

How were they implemented and how were they countered? In this game Cloak wipes you off the face of the Earth after 3 - 4 seconds. If there was a predator visual gleam, or a reliable counter then full stealth at full speed is fine.

"Reliable counter"

You mean like the perk near decoy which reveals cloaked players?

"But schnibbly , we want a perma counter to cloak"

...*sigh*