Defiance's payment model is killing this game

[fang1192]

Huzzah! Another '*insert whatever here* is killing this game' thread. Nothing is killing this game - its only just begun!

I recommend reading the whole thread, just for entertainment value.

[squidney2k1]

Is..... is this a joke?

My thoughts, exactly.

[Jamescrow]

just like the MMO:Guildwars 2,The Secret World (who start as p2p) or the RPG: Diablo 3, Torchlight 2.

F2P have alot of P2W content and people that just spam all the time becouse its free to play so everyone can play, B2P are for players who pay one time and want to play the game.

the only model ilove to play its B2P with DLC and custom content and this is what trion done with Defiance.
mybe we have less players but we have player that pay for their game.

[knighttwin1]

More like this

LOL so epic.

[Ensu]

DRM is a horrible horrible thing. It makes life worse for legit copy buying customers, and makes no difference for the torrenters, because their versions have had the DRM stripped away. Thus, the torrenters have a -better- version than the paying customers.

Who wouldn't rather have been able to play Diablo 3 offline?

Some people did. :I

[Sarin]

Oh my god the OP is actually serious...

I have never actually seen someone this mind blowingly stupid when it comes to 1: How businesses work 2: Copyright law 3: How torrents work 4: Degree of gullibility...

I actually feel stupider from having read this thread.

[Igax]

Oh my god the OP is actually serious...

I have never actually seen someone this mind blowingly stupid when it comes to 1: How businesses work 2: Copyright law 3: How torrents work 4: Degree of gullibility...

I actually feel stupider from having read this thread.

Now now, could be a sheltered and protected 12 year old.

[Myst]

Oh my god the OP is actually serious...

I have never actually seen someone this mind blowingly stupid when it comes to 1: How businesses work 2: Copyright law 3: How torrents work 4: Degree of gullibility...

I actually feel stupider from having read this thread.

/hands over some of my philosophy books then!/

[r3dl4nce]

- Torrenting isn't stealing because you are downloading a COPY of the game. No-one is being deprived of the ability to own the game, because when you torrent the company is producing a copy specially for you rather than allocating a physical or limited production run item to you that is owned or was originally intended for someone else (which is why stealing a car somebody else is driving lands you in jail, but my friend has been torrenting and watching youtube for years without any legal problems). In fact you become a new customer for the company.

No.
Really.
No.
You REALLY think what you wrote?
Please, tell me it's a joke.

- He has been torrenting for years with no legal problems and even his parents do it. His father is a police officer.

Never heard of copyright laws, uh?

- Torrent sites are supported by advertising revenue. He showed me a site and true enough it had multiple banner ads.

Not a single dime for that ads will go to the companies who did produce the movies/games/music.

- If companies didn't want their games torrented (which they do, as proved in the previous point they get advertising money from torrents) why wouldn't they spend some of their $10-100 million dollar developments budgets making effective countermeasures?

It's called DRM...

B2P is an outdated payment model, Trion

Sure. 3 millions of GW2 buyer are a demonstration of this statement LOL !

But with the ridiculous $60 price

Same price of a single player, but you will have LOT MORE of fun hours. And on resellers like g2play you can buy with good discounts (for PC)

[ironhands]

DRM is a horrible horrible thing. It makes life worse for legit copy buying customers, and makes no difference for the torrenters, because their versions have had the DRM stripped away. Thus, the torrenters have a -better- version than the paying customers.

Who wouldn't rather have been able to play Diablo 3 offline?

Some people did. :I

yeah there's lots of people who can't play a game because of the DRM restrictions. I've seen articles on major gaming sites about people buying the game, and then downloading a torrent for the freedom. Personally, I don't have an issue with DRM, I'm a huge fan of steam, but I have heard horror stories.