F2P or SUB poll speak your mind

[AmazingPatt]

so far i love how they want a do it :
Dealspwn: So there'll be a one off-purchase...

Hill: Right.

Dealspwn: ... how then will you monetise it?

Hill: What we've talked about - it's not 100% but this is what we're looking at doing - is a dual system where somebody can decide that they want to grab little-by-little individual microtransactions and individual download content or they can subscribe and get all of that stuff included.

Dealspwn: So there'll be a premium membership or you can cherry-pick what you want?

Hill: Exactly.

Dealspwn: Will there be experience boosters and other time-savers?

Hill: Boosters are one of the things we're looking at, for sure. What we don't want to do is sell weapons. Cosmetic customisation - not just you but the vehicles you can drive. Those are the two primary drivers, besides download content which will only be available if you actually purchase it.

if they make it work like that i would totally be cool with it =D

( http://www.dealspwn.com/defiance-int...ob-hill-124125 )

[Paladin]

so far i love how they want a do it :
Dealspwn: So there'll be a one off-purchase...

Hill: Right.

Dealspwn: ... how then will you monetise it?

Hill: What we've talked about - it's not 100% but this is what we're looking at doing - is a dual system where somebody can decide that they want to grab little-by-little individual microtransactions and individual download content or they can subscribe and get all of that stuff included.


Dealspwn: So there'll be a premium membership or you can cherry-pick what you want?

Hill: Exactly.

Dealspwn: Will there be experience boosters and other time-savers?

Hill: Boosters are one of the things we're looking at, for sure. What we don't want to do is sell weapons. Cosmetic customisation - not just you but the vehicles you can drive. Those are the two primary drivers, besides download content which will only be available if you actually purchase it.

if they make it work like that i would totally be cool with it =D

( http://www.dealspwn.com/defiance-int...ob-hill-124125 )

I wonder how that'll work though :S. Are they going to provide the premiums with exclusives, free content, or weekly goodies that would be in the microtransaction shop?

[AmazingPatt]

I wonder how that'll work though :S. Are they going to provide the premiums with exclusives, free content, or weekly goodies that would be in the microtransaction shop?

that something i wonder too . maybe it give premium example 5 exp booster per week free but if you want more you need to pay more . but personally if i pay for premium i don't want to have to pay for micro-transaction too =)

[Gibson Khaine]

so far i love how they want a do it :
Dealspwn: So there'll be a one off-purchase...

Hill: Right.

Dealspwn: ... how then will you monetise it?

Hill: What we've talked about - it's not 100% but this is what we're looking at doing - is a dual system where somebody can decide that they want to grab little-by-little individual microtransactions and individual download content or they can subscribe and get all of that stuff included.

Dealspwn: So there'll be a premium membership or you can cherry-pick what you want?

Hill: Exactly.

Dealspwn: Will there be experience boosters and other time-savers?

Hill: Boosters are one of the things we're looking at, for sure. What we don't want to do is sell weapons. Cosmetic customisation - not just you but the vehicles you can drive. Those are the two primary drivers, besides download content which will only be available if you actually purchase it.

if they make it work like that i would totally be cool with it =D

( http://www.dealspwn.com/defiance-int...ob-hill-124125 )

This is basically a little like Star Wars the Old Republic.

Is free to download but your limited in how much of it you can do.
You need Micro Transactions for limited access to Pvp warzones and end game raiding content. Some purchases through micro transactions give a you a weeks access.

Subscribing for a month gives you more access as a 'prefferred status' customer

While those that have purchased the game and continue a subscription gain unlimited access to all content. which you can supplement with Micro transactions (of which you gain free 'credit' to purchase while your subscribing)

I think its a very good system and although alot of criticism has been made that Starwars going to free to play was a 'fail' system is in fact brilliant.

Those committed to many aspects of the game will find that a subscription gives them unlimited access to Warzones/pvp battleground and end game pve content.
Those that want access by micro transactions will be able to pay for the 5 or 6 PVP warzone access for the week for a cheaper price but if they have tyhe time or want to play more they will be better off subscribing.

This means you can choose which revenue fits your 'play time' more than anything.

The Micro transaction shop other than access for non subscribers also contains Vanity items that give no game benefit other than customizable appearances or minor experience boosts.

All in all this is probably the best system Ive seen to give a great revenue stream for Trion and Scifi as well as not being 'pay to win' but actually 'pay to play more' for the less casuals.

[deusex2]

This isn't SWTOR system, but D&D Online system. The one that came up as a last ditch effort to save failing mmo title(which it did in abundance), and the one that every other failing p2p mmo has adopted(DCUO, TSW and SWTOR are recent examples).

I might as well refrain from from investing into Defiance for a while, if TRION needs that system right off the bat to keep the game going.

[Plasma]

This isn't SWTOR system, but D&D Online system. The one that came up as a last ditch effort to save failing mmo title(which it did in abundance), and the one that every other failing p2p mmo has adopted(DCUO, TSW and SWTOR are recent examples).

I might as well refrain from from investing into Defiance for a while, if TRION needs that system right off the bat to keep the game going.

its the nature of today market i don't like it, i wish we could get out of this slump where people don't want to pay for games or content. i hope that that developers come to the realization that this is not sustainable for growth and go you what your going to pay for games again and if you don't like it too bad.

[deusex2]

its the nature of today market i don't like it, i wish we could get out of this slump where people don't want to pay for games or content. i hope that that developers come to the realization that this is not sustainable for growth and go you what your going to pay for games again and if you don't like it too bad.

Yeah, and what's ironic is that in the end those people who are attracted by "free" part end up paying much more for less, in the long run.

As for growth, well, f2p attracts lots of people, but the problem is the quality of those people, not to mention the fact that f2p basically leaves people unpunished, whereas p2p system tends to keep troublemakers in check, more or less.

So yeah, it's good for business, but bad for us-consumers, at least for those who realize those simple facts.

[Paladin]

Isn't f2p already out of the question? GameStop already holds pre orders for standard, limited, and collectors editions each at their respective prices of $60, $100, and $150. Now we just wait to see how the Microtransaction shop/subscription system will work

[deusex2]

Isn't f2p already out of the question? GameStop already holds pre orders for standard, limited, and collectors editions each at their respective prices of $60, $100, and $150. Now we just wait to see how the Microtransaction shop/subscription system will work

If that is the case, then Trion probably aims for buy2play model, the same as GW1,2 uses. And considering how Arena Net handles item shop in their game, well I just hope Trion isn't planning to have some stupid Black Lion chests with stupid chest keys being bought for real cash.

[Plasma]

f2p does not guarantee free to buy the box will most likely have a price.
selling 100,000 boxes at 50 would net them 5mill that's a good start to paying off the game