Diablo III
Diablo III
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good luck with people actually buying into a F2p game. I hate to break it too you, but most if not all f2p games are pay to win. No such thing as F2p game and monthly subs are just dumb, why would you wanna pay monthly for a game is beyond me. 10-15$ to play on a console? F-that.Originally Posted by Atheosis
Gameplay is SOOOOOO much more rewarding as a sub. However i dont think my wallet can take another sub game so I'm hoping for a b2p with xp boosts and expansions not DLC
Yeah...Personally, I'd rather have p2p, but I don't mind b2p, so long as there are no DLCs, because as of late, those are nothing but a slap in the face of gamer with common sense.
You guys thing how to get the game effects the way it plays, I can tell you that free to play games can be better than other game that are p2p. Blacklight is better than COD, Blacklight has all the basic gameplay elements of the COD games but has it game play set up so you don't have to deal with campers and cheap stuff. It is not the way you pay it is about how the devs make the game. When you think about it what you really mean to say is, All current f2p games I have played have not been as good as sub.
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No one on console wants to do that. I'm fine with buying the game or buying the game as a premium model with dlc(as long as they have a *** load of content). Think about it, only a handle full of people want to do that subscription crap. Since this game isn't really well known threw out the game world think about it, you'd shoot yourself in the foot if it was 10$ a month plus a base price. rewarding please, whatever happened to make a game you pay a flat price then half that for a large expansion...
I think base price plus premium. MMO aren't doing as well because of subscription fee, and F2p games are kinda meh...the games with "premium" package seem to sell more *points at borderlands 2 and BF3* subcription may be a good idea, but not for console and not for a absurd price like 10-15$ a month. If you think so good luck seeing this game sell large amounts, i want this game to be a hit
Well actually Dc Online for ps3 came out selling a lot of units but didn't get a lot of them to stay because of the subs. So if defiance becomes a b2p they will sell a lot And keep their players. An MMO on a console is a tempting idea many players will like to try. Slap the fps action on there and you get many more players. They can also do a plan where buying MMO subscription also gives you Xbox Live subscription. They've been doing this on Monster Hunter Frontier and its selling great
Please don't bring in Blacklight into this. The game is nothing but a hackfest, coupled with grind from hell. You're either forced to use the same starter crap all the time and get beaten by just about anyone or you can just unlock everything you want by buying it.
It's pretty much the same as Planetside2, only PS2 is more balanced and plays on a massive scale.
Optional Subscription based games are stupid and alienate a lot of players that can't afford to pay for subs from joining friends at in-game events. A smart company would make it easy for everyone to play together and allow micro-transactions for cosmetic and mild convenience items.
The big problem I see is that game companies that use f2p models often copy the standard pay to win cash shops that korean developers are so fond of. While these games start popular since they are new and die quickly because items in the cash shops quickly gives an advantage to those that spend tons of money(perfect world, aeria games, and Nexon spring to mind.) I've recently been seeing a trend with newer US and European developers are moving to convenience and cosmetic only items. Upcoming game firefall is a good example of this so far, but that game is still in early development so I can only hope they keep it that way.
I've never stuck with optional subscription games. As stated above they alienate players that don't have are want to spend money on subscription or can't afford to buy the stuff through micro transactions. Its really annoying to get to a certain point in a game with friends and find out they cannot join you because they don't the premium membership that you do. While sub games like dc online and star wars are fun at first they quickly become money grabs that are just as bad as a lot of f2p with pay to win cash shops.
Pay 2 play games that require a renewed subscriptions are alright. I like the balance that you get from them not having cash shops. I've been pay for extra cosmetic and dlc items pop up on these games lately. Making them effectively as bad as game with cash shops. When you're paying a monthly fee already why should you need to pay extra for special content. That stuff should be available to everyone and is just showing excessive greed from game companies. I also don't like the fact that a lot of my friends cannot play the game with me unless they are paying for the game.
As for me, I stick to more independent games that are f2p and have no pay to win cash items yet. I don't mind paying for an initial game and massive expansions like guildwars does. One thing I won't do is use a game that separates its players by the amount of money they can afford spend through some sort of tiered subscription like Sony does with there games.
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