F2P or SUB poll speak your mind

[Black_wraith]

Optional Subscription based games are stupid and alienate a lot of players that can't afford to pay for subs from joining friends at in-game events. A smart company would make it easy for everyone to play together and allow micro-transactions for cosmetic and mild convenience items.

The big problem I see is that game companies that use f2p models often copy the standard pay to win cash shops that korean developers are so fond of. While these games start popular since they are new and die quickly because items in the cash shops quickly gives an advantage to those that spend tons of money(perfect world, aeria games, and Nexon spring to mind.) I've recently been seeing a trend with newer US and European developers are moving to convenience and cosmetic only items. Upcoming game firefall is a good example of this so far, but that game is still in early development so I can only hope they keep it that way.

I've never stuck with optional subscription games. As stated above they alienate players that don't have are want to spend money on subscription or can't afford to buy the stuff through micro transactions. Its really annoying to get to a certain point in a game with friends and find out they cannot join you because they don't the premium membership that you do. While sub games like dc online and star wars are fun at first they quickly become money grabs that are just as bad as a lot of f2p with pay to win cash shops.

Pay 2 play games that require a renewed subscriptions are alright. I like the balance that you get from them not having cash shops. I've been pay for extra cosmetic and dlc items pop up on these games lately. Making them effectively as bad as game with cash shops. When you're paying a monthly fee already why should you need to pay extra for special content. That stuff should be available to everyone and is just showing excessive greed from game companies. I also don't like the fact that a lot of my friends cannot play the game with me unless they are paying for the game.

As for me, I stick to more independent games that are f2p and have no pay to win cash items yet. I don't mind paying for an initial game and massive expansions like guildwars does. One thing I won't do is use a game that separates its players by the amount of money they can afford spend through some sort of tiered subscription like Sony does with there games.

i like this post a lot. Personally i prefer battlefield 3 idea base game or package with premium an get early access to dlc's . i probably wont get this game if it has subscrption or in game money which beyond horrible

[Plzbanme]

Please don't bring in Blacklight into this. The game is nothing but a hackfest, coupled with grind from hell. You're either forced to use the same starter crap all the time and get beaten by just about anyone or you can just unlock everything you want by buying it.

It's pretty much the same as Planetside2, only PS2 is more balanced and plays on a massive scale.

A grind from hell? That is only if you are stupid, you don't prem-buy every part you want. You rent by what you need and hackers are not common anymore. Blacklight is good if you know what you are doing, but yes there is some grinding. But when you think about it grinding is part of the game in nature. You want to play the game to start with and you earn GP for doing so, it is a fun grind. And it is very balanced game, with a very high learning curve, you got to aim for the head.

[Thayl Ruttgar]

I myself want F2P with option to buy content or the ability to make very small amounts of store points buy playing content and winning, maybe since this game runs with TV series have hints on it where to find store points that are very hard to follow without being really into game think that will get people to watch the show and play the game I for one am very excited to watch the show and then jump into game and follow a story that way seems very refreshing to me and no one has brought this up I do not get that this can be one of the biggest things ever if people do it right. And I must say I feel that so far Trion is doing a great job at this from the VBI site to all the videos about the game that always talk about the show and how it connects.

this is just my opinion I do hope others share it though.

[deusex2]

A grind from hell? That is only if you are stupid, you don't prem-buy every part you want. You rent by what you need and hackers are not common anymore. Blacklight is good if you know what you are doing, but yes there is some grinding. But when you think about it grinding is part of the game in nature. You want to play the game to start with and you earn GP for doing so, it is a fun grind. And it is very balanced game, with a very high learning curve, you got to aim for the head.

There's nothing balanced about it. The game designed to be pay2win and you simply can't keep up with competition unless you cough up the dough. Not to mention that the game itself is CoD lite.

[Fiancee]

We already know it uses somekind of hydrid business model. Theres free and paid content.

[Plzbanme]

There's nothing balanced about it. The game designed to be pay2win and you simply can't keep up with competition unless you cough up the dough. Not to mention that the game itself is CoD lite.

Just because you suck at the game doesn't mean you can say it is pay to win. I was playing with stock for the longest time and kicking ***, and if you don't like stock just get a premade. Don't for get high learning curve, I bet you jump for 5 minutes when it went on steam, got your *** kicked by everyone that has been playing the game since it launch outside of steam and thought it must be play to win. If you play about 2 hours a day(I was doing 4 hours per day for about month before steam) You earn about 125 per game, and you can get 10 games in about a 2 hour period. 125 time 10 is 1250 and 1250 time 7 is 8750 gp a week which is two prem-buys. There are also all the stuff you get as you rank up, which let you keep trying parts as you keep trying to find which parts meet your play style. Also they give you the best killsteak right off the bat, the hardsuit.

[deusex2]

I was in it's beta and at it's launch. Cool trolling trolling though. I state the fact-whoever pays real cash gains the advantage and you run your mouth about how bad I must be at that crap of a game-very mature of you.

I was decent at that garbage rip-off, but all I could do was working for guns instead of having fun, hence grind from hell. You could buy everything you wanted and roflstomp anyone in that game, or you could be a slave and work for guns, only to be eventually roflstomped.

And when you consider the amount of money you have to spend in order to have fun instead of having another job, BF+COD are actually cheaper in a long run.

[Plzbanme]

I was in it's beta and at it's launch. Cool trolling trolling though. I state the fact-whoever pays real cash gains the advantage and you run your mouth about how bad I must be at that crap of a game-very mature of you.

I was decent at that garbage rip-off, but all I could do was working for guns instead of having fun, hence grind from hell. You could buy everything you wanted and roflstomp anyone in that game, or you could be a slave and work for guns, only to be eventually roflstomped.

And when you consider the amount of money you have to spend in order to have fun instead of having another job, BF+COD are actually cheaper in a long run.

Wow, so you weren't having fun and keep playing? I don't know why you would. It is balance and stock is just as good as top level stuff. I use stock armor for the most part all but my helmet which has a special skin got it free. The game has gone through changes since launch.

[Fikticio]

Hi Plzbanme,

If you whant just play F2P games you should go to the EST, go live in China or Korea. If you dont whant to pay for stuff, mabe you should go to... nowhere. No one will give you nothing for free, the free in F2P its just an ilusion, where if you dont spend money you are not at the same lvl as the ones that do spend it.
In life to survive you need a job to make money to pay the rent and to buy food. So Devs and companies have the right to charge you for there jobe.

[Plzbanme]

Hi Plzbanme,

If you whant just play F2P games you should go to the EST, go live in China or Korea. If you dont whant to pay for stuff, mabe you should go to... nowhere. No one will give you nothing for free, the free in F2P its just an ilusion, where if you dont spend money you are not at the same lvl as the ones that do spend it.
In life to survive you need a job to make money to pay the rent and to buy food. So Devs and companies have the right to charge you for there jobe.

Man, I feel sorry for you. You have play such bad free to play game you can't stand the sight of them. And I know free to play isn't free, they charge in time and effort, something today's games don't have and really need. Also after TF2 went free to play, it saw a 12X income increase.