End Game Content

[Stoned Soldier]

This is to address all those complaining that there is not any End Game Content for an MMO
Defiance is not your average MMO genre. It is a Hybrid between franchise shooters and franchise MMO. So, with that being said the End Game content is NOT your average MMO tier gear or epic weapon, although you do get an in story only pistol after completing the storyline. The End Game Content is actually your EGO and Perks. You want to say you are the best and you deserve end game content. Then earn your ego rating get your perks, that is end game content. when you get to ego 4000 and don't have some awesome Orange weapons with synergies, nano effects, 4 mod slots already opened for you or how about an Ironclad IV regenerator shield, then you can say you have NOTHING.
So here is the point if you haven't reached ego 4000 you don't deserve to see End Game Content, other than the equipment you get through the storyline. If you don't like that then go play DCUO, I heard they are about to release T5 armor. Myself I will continue to pursue my E.G.O. rating and weapon hunting.
True Ark Hunters don't complain they Hunt.

[Irres169]

I'm seriously considering derailing this thread before they lock it.

[Verios44]

This is to address all those complaining that there is not any End Game Content for an MMO
Defiance is not your average MMO genre. It is a Hybrid between franchise shooters and franchise MMO. So, with that being said the End Game content is NOT your average MMO tier gear or epic weapon, although you do get an in story only pistol after completing the storyline. The End Game Content is actually your EGO and Perks. You want to say you are the best and you deserve end game content. Then earn your ego rating get your perks, that is end game content. when you get to ego 4000 and don't have some awesome Orange weapons with synergies, nano effects, 4 mod slots already opened for you or how about an Ironclad IV regenerator shield, then you can say you have NOTHING.
So here is the point if you haven't reached ego 4000 you don't deserve to see End Game Content, other than the equipment you get through the storyline. If you don't like that then go play DCUO, I heard they are about to release T5 armor. Myself I will continue to pursue my E.G.O. rating and weapon hunting.
True Ark Hunters don't complain they Hunt.

I second this completely. Defiance is a new breed of mmo so end game will be entirely different. It kindof reminds me of EVE Online's endgame which is POS towers and super capitals, both can be destroyed in a blink of an eye, so there is no true endgame.

[Jack The Bear]

This is to address all those complaining that there is not any End Game Content for an MMO
Defiance is not your average MMO genre. It is a Hybrid between franchise shooters and franchise MMO. So, with that being said the End Game content is NOT your average MMO tier gear or epic weapon, although you do get an in story only pistol after completing the storyline. The End Game Content is actually your EGO and Perks. You want to say you are the best and you deserve end game content. Then earn your ego rating get your perks, that is end game content. when you get to ego 4000 and don't have some awesome Orange weapons with synergies, nano effects, 4 mod slots already opened for you or how about an Ironclad IV regenerator shield, then you can say you have NOTHING.
So here is the point if you haven't reached ego 4000 you don't deserve to see End Game Content, other than the equipment you get through the storyline. If you don't like that then go play DCUO, I heard they are about to release T5 armor. Myself I will continue to pursue my E.G.O. rating and weapon hunting.
True Ark Hunters don't complain they Hunt.

Okay I have a little problem with this. Defiance is hella-fun. But there is no real progress to me. It will tire out after awhile, and I don't want that to happen. I mean im still using a 30 E-lvl Assault Rifle, at 1200+ EGO. The appeal behind end-game content can be different, but with no real progress it kinda kills the replay ability. At least that's my opinion. It would be nice to get a gun that is a bit stronger, or a stronger shield. I mean hell Dark Matter still rip into me after all this time, I just avoid San-Fran at this point.

I know it is a MMOTPS, emphasis on the shooter part. But it is still an MMO and to me it needs a little bit of progress feel. An EGO 50 has a great chance of beating an EGO 5000. The only differnce is the availability of items and the extra perk slots, which wont help all that much. Just an opinion. :]

[Angeleus09]

Okay I have a little problem with this. Defiance is hella-fun. But there is no real progress to me. It will tire out after awhile, and I don't want that to happen. I mean im still using a 30 E-lvl Assault Rifle, at 1200+ EGO.

I do hope you mean the same kind of gun and not the actual same gun, right? Otherwise you've been depriving yourself of increasing your character's base skill for ARs and all the innate bonuses that come with that.

The appeal behind end-game content can be different, but with no real progress it kinda kills the replay ability. At least that's my opinion. It would be nice to get a gun that is a bit stronger, or a stronger shield. I mean hell Dark Matter still rip into me after all this time, I just avoid San-Fran at this point.

Dark Matter rips everyone who doesn't use cover properly to shreds regardless of EGO. The way gear in this game works isn't like other MMOs, even though they use the same color rarity scale. The base damage on weapons will never change regardless of EGO but that is entirely by design. Wait.... There is a reason for that, and you actually already said it.

An EGO 50 has a great chance of beating an EGO 5000. The only differnce is the availability of items and the extra perk slots, which wont help all that much. Just an opinion. :]

That's the whole point, this is a physical skill based game, not a stat-skill based one. When you move into PvP whoever is the better shooter will win and if they are of equal skill then whoever chose their perk set more intelligently will. Sure they could just make everyone equal when entering PvP but then there would be an insane amount of complaining about that. This game was specifically designed to avoid the gear segregation schtako that usually plagues other MMOs, i.e. "No sorry you can't join our group, you're not geared properly for this instance."

I've played other MMOs and while I have enjoyed them I do not at all miss having to grind instances to get Gear Set A for Purpose A and then Gear Set B for Purpose B etc. Also I'm only about ER 550 but from what I've been seeing around the forums you're just about to the "sweet spot" where guns start dropping with all or almost all of the mod slots already unlocked and at least one synergy already in place so there's always that to look forward to.

Edit: forgot to add that I do think there should be some content that unlocks when you beat the main story mission, be it an additional instance to run or a new PvP map or something. I haven't completed the campaign yet but I understand you get a weapon drop and that's about it.

[Wrong Game]

Thought you were talking about Battlefield 3. Lololol.

[FNL4EVA23]

This is to address all those complaining that there is not any End Game Content for an MMO
Defiance is not your average MMO genre. It is a Hybrid between franchise shooters and franchise MMO. So, with that being said the End Game content is NOT your average MMO tier gear or epic weapon, although you do get an in story only pistol after completing the storyline. The End Game Content is actually your EGO and Perks. You want to say you are the best and you deserve end game content. Then earn your ego rating get your perks, that is end game content. when you get to ego 4000 and don't have some awesome Orange weapons with synergies, nano effects, 4 mod slots already opened for you or how about an Ironclad IV regenerator shield, then you can say you have NOTHING.
So here is the point if you haven't reached ego 4000 you don't deserve to see End Game Content, other than the equipment you get through the storyline. If you don't like that then go play DCUO, I heard they are about to release T5 armor. Myself I will continue to pursue my E.G.O. rating and weapon hunting.
True Ark Hunters don't complain they Hunt.

Yet you are complaining sorry had to say it.

[Jack The Bear]

I do hope you mean the same kind of gun and not the actual same gun, right? Otherwise you've been depriving yourself of increasing your character's base skill for ARs and all the innate bonuses that come with that.

Yea i mean the same type of gun not the actual :]

Dark Matter rips everyone who doesn't use cover properly to shreds regardless of EGO. The way gear in this game works isn't like other MMOs, even though they use the same color rarity scale. The base damage on weapons will never change regardless of EGO but that is entirely by design. Wait.... There is a reason for that, and you actually already said it.

That is true and i understand that, this game so far to me isnt really an MMO. Its just the lack of progress is what im afraid will turn people away. I mean its unfortunatley a staple of the gaming industry these days. People want to feel like they progressed. The only reason i am EGO 1200+ is because i did the pursuits for the rewards and leveled my guns up.

That's the whole point, this is a physical skill based game, not a stat-skill based one. When you move into PvP whoever is the better shooter will win and if they are of equal skill then whoever chose their perk set more intelligently will. Sure they could just make everyone equal when entering PvP but then there would be an insane amount of complaining about that. This game was specifically designed to avoid the gear segregation schtako that usually plagues other MMOs, i.e. "No sorry you can't join our group, you're not geared properly for this instance."

I do agree this game needs more skill to play then a grind-fest, but PVP was a bad example, ATM. Shotgun and cloak dominate the majority of that right now but i know what you mean and i agree.

I've played other MMOs and while I have enjoyed them I do not at all miss having to grind instances to get Gear Set A for Purpose A and then Gear Set B for Purpose B etc. Also I'm only about ER 550 but from what I've been seeing around the forums you're just about to the "sweet spot" where guns start dropping with all or almost all of the mod slots already unlocked and at least one synergy already in place so there's always that to look forward to.

Also agree that the mods are the only point of getting a new gun really. I just don't like currently finishing and arkfall and getting some useless Vendor-trash or Matrix-trash. Which is always a shield or grenade. I just hope they don't mess it up. BUT.. To be fair, this game is arleady a grind-fest lol. Your just grinding different things.

[Stoned Soldier]

I do hope you mean the same kind of gun and not the actual same gun, right? Otherwise you've been depriving yourself of increasing your character's base skill for ARs and all the innate bonuses that come with that.



Dark Matter rips everyone who doesn't use cover properly to shreds regardless of EGO. The way gear in this game works isn't like other MMOs, even though they use the same color rarity scale. The base damage on weapons will never change regardless of EGO but that is entirely by design. Wait.... There is a reason for that, and you actually already said it.



That's the whole point, this is a physical skill based game, not a stat-skill based one. When you move into PvP whoever is the better shooter will win and if they are of equal skill then whoever chose their perk set more intelligently will. Sure they could just make everyone equal when entering PvP but then there would be an insane amount of complaining about that. This game was specifically designed to avoid the gear segregation schtako that usually plagues other MMOs, i.e. "No sorry you can't join our group, you're not geared properly for this instance."

I've played other MMOs and while I have enjoyed them I do not at all miss having to grind instances to get Gear Set A for Purpose A and then Gear Set B for Purpose B etc. Also I'm only about ER 550 but from what I've been seeing around the forums you're just about to the "sweet spot" where guns start dropping with all or almost all of the mod slots already unlocked and at least one synergy already in place so there's always that to look forward to.

Edit: forgot to add that I do think there should be some content that unlocks when you beat the main story mission, be it an additional instance to run or a new PvP map or something. I haven't completed the campaign yet but I understand you get a weapon drop and that's about it.

You answered that post perfectly, I could not have said it any better. around ego 1000 you will get a variety of synergy, nano and 3-4 mod slotted weapons and a plethora of purple shields and grenades. after campaign you get a wpn. I don't know if it is class specific. I beat it as a Veteran and got a pistol, might I say a beast pistol.

[Stoned Soldier]

Yet you are complaining sorry had to say it.

and what is it that is a complaint?