End Game Content

[nosworc]

i agree completly with this i love that defiance doesnt have a loot table to constantly grind for i love the fact that all weapons are random and it takes some true grinding to find end game weapons

Lol what?
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[nosworc]

the end game content for Defiance is your EGO and Perks. That is what defines you as an Individual in the Role Playing aspect.

We shall see how many people stick with the game for the long haul just to grind out Ego with no real benefits. I'd imagine not many, like it or not people want to feel a sense of accomplishment when spending countless hours in a game like this. The game is young so im willing to stick with it for awhile but if the only thing im going to be doing is grinding out Ego....naaaa

[Stoned Soldier]

We shall see how many people stick with the game for the long haul just to grind out Ego with no real benefits. I'd imagine not many, like it or not people want to feel a sense of accomplishment when spending countless hours in a game like this. The game is young so im willing to stick with it for awhile but if the only thing im going to be doing is grinding out Ego....naaaa

you don't think 9maxed perks for 5 load outs is reward enough, ok well you also start to get weapons that have more synergy/nano/mod slots available the higher you get, also the shields and grenades significantly increase in potency.
I think what people want to see is some kind of vendor for special gear that you can only acquire after......... after what? where is the line for say a special weapon or shield? a high ego rating, ok well that is back to square one of what is and should be end game content.

[Verios44]

I am getting close to ego 1500 and I am beginning to notice that most of the weapon drops, even whites have 3 or 4 mod slots already. Also, I am starting to notice 2 perks on a gun before its even used so there is benefits to leveling up, just gradual.

[DanBowie]

This is to address all those complaining that there is not any End Game Content for an MMO
Defiance is not your average MMO genre. It is a Hybrid between franchise shooters and franchise MMO. So, with that being said the End Game content is NOT your average MMO tier gear or epic weapon, although you do get an in story only pistol after completing the storyline. The End Game Content is actually your EGO and Perks. You want to say you are the best and you deserve end game content. Then earn your ego rating get your perks, that is end game content. when you get to ego 4000 and don't have some awesome Orange weapons with synergies, nano effects, 4 mod slots already opened for you or how about an Ironclad IV regenerator shield, then you can say you have NOTHING.
So here is the point if you haven't reached ego 4000 you don't deserve to see End Game Content, other than the equipment you get through the storyline. If you don't like that then go play DCUO, I heard they are about to release T5 armor. Myself I will continue to pursue my E.G.O. rating and weapon hunting.
True Ark Hunters don't complain they Hunt.

Biggest fanboy post ever. Who the hell wants to level to 4000 with nothing to do. Are 5 years old do you know what real MMOs end game is like? There is nothing to do to justify playing this game after you beat the story. Not contracts or leveling your guns with nothing to shoot. Get over it this game will be dead in a month or after the season on tv ends. 2 maps and 1 game mode def aint a reason to stick around on this game

[DanBowie]

Too many dcuo references. You guys need to get over it or go back. I understand that it's the only mmo most of the ps3 players have any kind of experience playing, but it's not a very good example of one and anything you learned there isn't really relevant here. Let it go. If anyone even did the story missions and paid attention to it they'd realize that it's probably far from over. How can you expect end game content when a real story line hasn't even ended. They've just been introducing people. Good mmo games last year's and years. Take a look at ffxi and wow. Still kicking out the expansions. Just let the devs do their job. They're more experienced with mmo's than the people whining they want it and they want it now. This isn't J.G. Wentorth. It's an mmo. And if it's going to be a good one the devs won't cave in to the whiners, the people crying nerf every day, or the people who want quality rushed. Real end game will happen when it happens. The game isn't even a month old. If you expect end game in an mmo in 2-3 weeks then you should really go find another game.

Good MMOs on PC but this is a bad MMO on PS3. When ps4 is released this holiday PS3 will start to die. Do you think this game will last years on a system that will lose life in less then a year? Think about it? People say the dumbest **** to support this game

[uninhabitableheart]

I do hope you mean the same kind of gun and not the actual same gun, right? Otherwise you've been depriving yourself of increasing your character's base skill for ARs and all the innate bonuses that come with that.



Dark Matter rips everyone who doesn't use cover properly to shreds regardless of EGO. The way gear in this game works isn't like other MMOs, even though they use the same color rarity scale. The base damage on weapons will never change regardless of EGO but that is entirely by design. Wait.... There is a reason for that, and you actually already said it.



That's the whole point, this is a physical skill based game, not a stat-skill based one. When you move into PvP whoever is the better shooter will win and if they are of equal skill then whoever chose their perk set more intelligently will. Sure they could just make everyone equal when entering PvP but then there would be an insane amount of complaining about that. This game was specifically designed to avoid the gear segregation schtako that usually plagues other MMOs, i.e. "No sorry you can't join our group, you're not geared properly for this instance."

I've played other MMOs and while I have enjoyed them I do not at all miss having to grind instances to get Gear Set A for Purpose A and then Gear Set B for Purpose B etc. Also I'm only about ER 550 but from what I've been seeing around the forums you're just about to the "sweet spot" where guns start dropping with all or almost all of the mod slots already unlocked and at least one synergy already in place so there's always that to look forward to.

Edit: forgot to add that I do think there should be some content that unlocks when you beat the main story mission, be it an additional instance to run or a new PvP map or something. I haven't completed the campaign yet but I understand you get a weapon drop and that's about it.

I agree with your philosophies. Could you elaborate more about the level of the weapons and how it relates to your Skill Level advancement? I'm sort of in the dark about that. I just figured that was their "binding" system, preventing people from giving away high level stuff to lowbies or whatever.

[dim]

Good MMOs on PC but this is a bad MMO on PS3. When ps4 is released this holiday PS3 will start to die. Do you think this game will last years on a system that will lose life in less then a year? Think about it? People say the dumbest **** to support this game

Though its worth noting trion has hinted that defiance will show up on ps4. Though why hint at something it would be foolish not to do I don't really get.

[Stoned Soldier]

so for end game content you all want a Big Boss fight? I have played many MMORPGS, to list a few, Ultima Online, Diablo series, everquest, asherons call, WoW, everquest II, DCUO, champions of Norrath and the list goes on. End Game Content in all of those is some sort of Epic Mob that you need a Huge raid force to take on, not only that but you need a raid force that is also strategic. Now in Shooter Franchise the End game is your skills and abilities.
so for defiance as there isn't any Epic battle or Epic quest to obtain an Epic item or whatever you want, what there is is 9 perk slots available, Titles, and Armor style, emphasize style, once you reach certain Pursuits. that is the End Game to say I have done this and you haven't, therefore I am better than you. This game is awesome and grinding is something needed these days in games instead of being maxed out in a week or beating end game content, Then you truly have nothing left to do.

[Stoned Soldier]

Biggest fanboy post ever. Who the hell wants to level to 4000 with nothing to do. Are 5 years old do you know what real MMOs end game is like? There is nothing to do to justify playing this game after you beat the story. Not contracts or leveling your guns with nothing to shoot. Get over it this game will be dead in a month or after the season on tv ends. 2 maps and 1 game mode def aint a reason to stick around on this game

7 co-op, shadow war and 2 competitive with the third being released with updates. not to mention contracts, races, challenges and so forth. I really don't think majority of people playing this game are the MMORPG type of players you find in Franchise MMORPGs otherwise these comments you would never see.