I have to say this, and i don't want to sound like a jerk but....

[nuarblack]

the reason why people hate it because 1 its called lag hopping for a reason.

i know all you have to do is aim up but untill everyones connection/bandwidth/latency and what not is exactly the same lag hopping is considerd a cheap tactic/exploit so shots miss you, because on there screen you are still in the air,you are actualy on the ground or vis-versa.

easily exploitable

Oh gawd another one of these ignorant fools who cherry pick their facts to support their argument. The lag issue applies to all rapid movement not just jumping. By this logic sprinting, rolling, strafe twitching, and the Blur EGO should all be removed because they may benefit from lag.

[Remag Div]

halo pvp is awefully bad,it always has done,feels so childish and simple not to mention being able to jump over buildings just about,dont compare halo's god awefull mechanics to this one

This post makes my brain hurt. I'll just go ahead and say you're right so I don't have to read it again.

So many badz here, guessing all the qq'ers never played quake, or any unreals where jumping was 75% of the game.

This.

Seriously people, out of all the things wrong with PvP, jumping is like at the very depths of the list.

[Mynx]

This post makes my brain hurt. I'll just go ahead and say you're right so I don't have to read it again.



This.

Seriously people, out of all the things wrong with PvP, jumping is like at the very depths of the list.

its actualy a pretty big deal, not as much as other but still up there.

glad you think im right because what i said was true, im sorry it hurt your brain go rest your head.

[Mynx]

Oh gawd another one of these ignorant fools who cherry pick their facts to support their argument. The lag issue applies to all rapid movement not just jumping. By this logic sprinting, rolling, strafe twitching, and the Blur EGO should all be removed because they may benefit from lag.

the only fool here is you,

you just basicly punched yourself in the face,and thats by your ignorance thinking im ignorant lol

lag hopping has been gong on for years in competative games because its exploiting peoples connections,

rolling you cant shoot while doing it

however jump spamming you can keep jumping miles in the air and getting easy headshots as well as your target proberly shooting into thin air because,on there screen you are in the air when you are proberly on the ground about to jump in the air again.


dont try and justify a problem just because you want to abuse it.

learn to play and you wont have to abuse these sad exploiting tactics

[Remag Div]

The only thing I would fix would be the perk that grants you more damage when higher than your enemy. I still haven't tested to see if this works when jumping but I would assume so.

Still, most of the complaints I see for jumping are that it's "not realistic" or "it looks dumb" or "laggggg" but these are all awful arguments. You can't play the realism card in a science fiction TPS. Just stop. And as nuarblack pointed out everything is affected by lag so that's a moot point.

[Kazamario]

connection>skill

i dont see how fighting people with diffrent internet connections is considerd skill lol

That's why I stopped playing fighting games online...

[nuarblack]

the only fool here is you,

you just basicly punched yourself in the face,and thats by your ignorance thinking im ignorant lol

lag hopping has been gong on for years in competative games because its exploiting peoples connections,

rolling you cant shoot while doing it

however jump spamming you can keep jumping miles in the air and getting easy headshots as well as your target proberly shooting into thin air because,on there screen you are in the air when you are proberly on the ground about to jump in the air again.


dont try and justify a problem just because you want to abuse it.

learn to play and you wont have to abuse these sad exploiting tactics

Um sprinting and rolling are the only ones you can't shoot during. Twitching back and forth and using blur you can shoot while doing just the same as jumping. I do think something should be done about jumping such as inceased spead/bloom but the lag argument is just ridiculous. The game shouldn't be dumbed down for people with bad connections. Especially in a game that has an always online requirement as players should know that a high speed connection is a necessity coming in. With the exception of the bolt action sniper rifle bug, I have had zero lag issues and hit box detection issues since Trion got the servers stabilized.

[Zantros]

NERF JUMPING NOW!!!

3 Dimensional movement is OP!! We need 2D movement like Chess!

Seriously though, they did nerf jumping slightly.. In Liberate the Lost I used to be able to jump onto the cages (barely) immediately after the alarm room.. Now I can't come close to the required jump height to get on them..

[Upinya Slayin]

wow i missed alot this weekend. and i haven't had much lag issues but yes soem people eat damage (lag) espcially dat mexican internet lol
still has nothing to do with jumping

[BitmapJPEG]

i know all you have to do is aim up but untill everyones connection/bandwidth/latency and what not is exactly the same lag hopping is considerd a cheap tactic/exploit so shots miss you, because on there screen you are still in the air,you are actualy on the ground or vis-versa.

easily exploitable

Ok now I understand. I never did get the idea why jumping is such a big deal but if u put latency, bandwidth, etc. with it now I get the reason why. Had same issues in other games but the thing is reducing the height or what not of the jump just satisfy the other side is a bit bias. I mean its neither of the sides fault that the other has better connection but to change the effectiveness of jump is not the right way to fix this issue.

I do use jump a lot to avoid dmg but thats just my instinct to survive, it is PvP. You dont expect the other team to be courteous, kind, generous to you. Some players will exploit such things and other stuff as well to win. Life is unfair.
All I hope is that the devs fix the issues that we have right now in PvP soon.