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    VOT grind fraggers (pump shotgun) once you find a way past the whole reload thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindset View Post
    FRC heavy assault carbine.

    I can put out ~60k/clip in around 3 seconds without overcharge on a forge.
    That I believe. After getting LMGs to 20 I started on Assault Rifles and noticed very little drop off in my DPS. The only problem is that their fire rate is virtually the same and they have half the clip. However, with smart target acquisition and judicious use of the auto reload when activating overcharge you can somewhat overcome those problems.

    To the sniper people: I refuse to believe that even with the increased damage you can pump out enough shots to match an LMGs DPS. You simply can not fire them fast enough. Videos or it didn't happen.

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    When you can hit Crits as high as 25k+ a shot, you'll easily do more dps in one clip of sniper rounds than an lmg mag. And this is before we have our assassin synergy effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotic View Post
    Orange FRC SAW (1850 EGO)
    Nano Effect: Syphon
    Synergy: Rolling Thunder
    [1] +5% Mag
    [2] +10% Mag
    [3] +10% Hip Accuracy
    [4] +20% Hip Accuracy
    x1.10 Mag
    x1.10 Fire Rate
    +200% Melee Damage for 5 seconds after self-revive
    DMG 404
    Fire Rate 8.8
    Mag 94
    Reload 4.5
    Crit Mult 1.5x
    Bloom 0.88
    This is the best weapon in the game IMO for pve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyth View Post
    Blue Wolfhound with a 1.25 and 1.15 Critical multiplier on it.

    It's simply amazing.
    I have pretty much a similar pistol that rocks! I put a scope on it and it kills faster than a semi auto sniper.

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    Until we see solid numbers from tests, no one can say with 100% certainty what is the best weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Rig Is Red View Post
    When you can hit Crits as high as 25k+ a shot, you'll easily do more dps in one clip of sniper rounds than an lmg mag. And this is before we have our assassin synergy effects.
    Show me a video of you doing that damage every single shot and firing fast enough to empty your mag at a rate to match the DPS (since your posts seem to not understand what this means I'll tell you: Damage per Second) of an LMG or an Assault rifle and I'll believe you. Until then it is pure science fiction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Rig Is Red View Post
    Until we see solid numbers from tests, no one can say with 100% certainty what is the best weapon.

    Even then its very subjective. Sure, we can fight over things like DPS but the simple fact is that the best weapon is the weapon that is most effective for your play style.

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    Considering I played FFXI for 5 years I know how dps works. The fact is everyone is hoping on the saw bandwagon. I'm not saying it isn't a good weapon, but to assume its the best by just looking at the stats and not testing it extensively is not a good idea. Just because an item looks like its the best dosen't mean its the best, a common practice among mmo players. The saw may be the best in the game for dps, but until we see solid video and data proof in extensive tests of weapons, its ignorant to say the saw is superior to everything. Yes I have looked at the stats so I know how good it can be, but don't say it's superior to everything without hard proof. I'm simply trying to relay the idea that just because it looks the best dosen't mean its the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Rig Is Red View Post
    Considering I played FFXI for 5 years I know how dps works. The fact is everyone is hoping on the saw bandwagon. I'm not saying it isn't a good weapon, but to assume its the best by just looking at the stats and not testing it extensively is not a good idea. Just because an item looks like its the best dosen't mean its the best, a common practice among mmo players. The saw may be the best in the game for dps, but until we see solid video and data proof in extensive tests of weapons, its ignorant to say the saw is superior to everything. Yes I have looked at the stats so I know how good it can be, but don't say it's superior to everything without hard proof. I'm simply trying to relay the idea that just because it looks the best dosen't mean its the best.

    Understandable. I know I came off as confrontational in the last post and I apologize for that.

    I have done a fair amount of testing with various weapons. That is why I have my damage popups on. The only reason I care to see how much I'm doing is to attempt to scientifically quantify the abilities of various weapons. I've test fired various weapons and timed how quickly I can fire a clip and reload.

    The fire rate and consistent damage of the LMGs (and some Assault Rifles) is just hard to dispute. Sure some sniper rifles can do some sick damage. Personally I've never been able to fire them fast enough to get a decent DPS out of them (I've never seen anyone that could).

    Close quarters weapons like shotguns carry the disadvantage of forcing you to put yourself in a situation where enemies can often knock you down or disrupt your firing or reloading in some way. Their clips are also to small and their reload times to long. All of those factors kill their DPS. However, their CQC damage values make them dominant in PvE.

    The only weapons I haven't really tested that much are infectors and most of the explosive weapons so I can't really speak to them but I doubt the fire rates on explosive weapons are good enough to do sustained DPS.

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    The saw is a great weapon not saying the best, plus it's a easy weapon to get so you can have a stock of them to keep working on your xp. I've had about 4 of them and I'm only 511 ego rating.

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