Weapon damage is client side... So is vehicle speed, etc. Way to go Trion, way to go.

[FuriousAtTrion]

I have two shotguns with 20 round magazines with overpower that is 40 rounds before I have to reload, and there are several perks that can increase your speed by about 45% I think.

So he had Overpower AND Blur? Wouldn't that just be undeniable proof that he was hacking to get 2 EGO powers going at once?

DefiantFew, where his hands glowing red? Are you sure he had Blur?

[Shogo_Yahagi]

I'm gobsmacked. What would possess you keep this data client side? This was just an invitation to hack.

Also, if this data is kept client side, why does it often hang in the middle of a loadout change during combat while it tries to figure out what weapon I have equipped? That's some sad, sad code right there.

[Wrenito]

I'm gobsmacked. What would possess you keep this data client side? This was just an invitation to hack.

This game is predominantly a console game, where hacking is less prevalent.

[Ashikuro]

Client side character data for any online game is pathetic... It's so 1999. I'm very disappointed in Trion. With all their experience from Rift, they should seriously know better.

They have time to fix this. Upgrade the game, move the data to server side storage. Surely they will have server storage space with the number of customers quitting due to hackers.

[KuroSaru]

Its all well and good every tom duck and harry saying "get with the times client-side critical values is a bad idea". But name me a multiplayer FPS that is capable of hold more than 1000 people at the same time.

Long story short FPS games require low-latency else you'd all be moaning about LAG. It also has to act like a MMO style server and deal with multiple arkfall events and shadow wars all held on the same world, even though they are in instances/phases. So to achieve this it is normal for game devs to look to off-load anything they can from the servers. So mistakes such as keeping gun damage, range happens. Will the cheaters ever really stop? I don't think it will. A lot can be fixed and detected but like all games its a maturing process and as long as community we report everyone who cheats, we can only hope eventually it matures to the state that cheats become a 1-2 annoyance who get perm-banned.

So instead of making countless thread after thread, use the in game reporting option and just ignore them. nearly all cheaters get caught in the end as long as the company want to do it. If you want to make threads make them asking Trion what are they doing about it.

[Conflict]

Is Trion trying to repeat what Realtime Worlds did with APB?

[Scrincer]

The weapon damage is not client side.
you guys are really funny...

[Jeronan]

Client side character data for any online game is pathetic... It's so 1999. I'm very disappointed in Trion. With all their experience from Rift, they should seriously know better.

They have time to fix this. Upgrade the game, move the data to server side storage. Surely they will have server storage space with the number of customers quitting due to hackers.

I might sound dooming and glooming.

But this is just downright proof TRION screwed up big time and the PC Version of DEFIANCE is just doomed.

As they now have to support 3 platforms and can't even patch properly, yet alone even get a patch to the PS3.

What are the odds they gonna revamp a huge part of the Client and move data to the servers? Especially since they are already struggling keeping the servers running and somewhat performing.
Moving more Critical data to the server, also means increased Processing load on said server.

So forget it! We won't get an official response. Hell.... it won't be long till this thread will get outright deleted too, like all the other hack threads and TRION just continue on like nothing happened.

They most likely just gonna focus on XBOX360 and PS3, as hacks won't be much of a problem there.... and the PC Version will just be written off!

It's just sad it has come to this..... I just Write off the 60 bucks + 15 bucks in bits I waisted on this game and move on and forget this game even exists.

I just keep watching the TV show and leave it at that.

There are plenty other games to play and enjoy, so no big deal really.

[nitroz76]

Cheat Engine, anyone?

[EdgeTW]

Arkfalls? I'm usually top 1-3 in the damage meters, lest I come late, and I yet have to spot a hacker in there with crazy amounts of damage or similar.

Not to sidetrack the thread, but I run across a dozen posts a day making this claim. Heck, even I'm in the top 1-3 at Arkfalls. We can't all be occupying the first few slots. At this point I am beginning to suspect there is something bugged with that scoreboard and different people are seeing different results. Honestly would not surprise me.