Weapon damage is client side... So is vehicle speed, etc. Way to go Trion, way to go.

[IGN]

I wouldn't mind these cheaters or hackers to step online during the live streams and demonstrating these hacks to Greg or Dahanese.

If Greg was in pvp during a live stream while over a 1,000 people are watching and just dies over and again to one shot SMG's and Infectors would definitely get a conversation started.

Hackers out there! Log on during live stream PLEASE! For the LOVE it would be the only time i would want to see you ever!

ROFL. Knowing Trion that would just result in extreme SMG and Infector nerfs.

Look at how many pages this thread is and there is still no Trion response.

[Lisa]

This actually explains why I emptied a clip into some guy only to have his shields move like 20%. I did some reading and it seems like its pretty easy to hack in here. Hopefully the banhammer that the gm's said is coming soon will slam these cheaters out of my game.

[chaosorb]

This actually explains why I emptied a clip into some guy only to have his shields move like 20%. I did some reading and it seems like its pretty easy to hack in here. Hopefully the banhammer that the gm's said is coming soon will slam these cheaters out of my game.

In order for them to swing the banhammer, they need irrefutable proof. And since the dmg data is client side, more likely than not, they will have to rely on SS from players. With the anti-cheat programs out there, they use an algorithm to check the checksums coming from client side and match against server side but since all the dmg stuff is stored client side, that makes it a wee difficult to do

[baelrusk]

Just to note.

I believe that putting things client side helps lessen the load on the servers since they would have to do that for every player simultaneously.

Not for against it. Just thought to add that.

[Zewks]

Hey guys, dont be so harsh on Trion for this. The multiplayer game genre has only been around for a couple of months, max, so its not like anyone knew something like this would happen. This is also trions first multiplayer game. Im sure they will patch it, and we can count on their 2nd online game not having these issues. I almost with cheaters had been around in the gaming world for years, because at least then, developers would have a lot more experience in knowing how to code ways to fight against hacking and cheating. Oh well, guess in a couple more years, when there are more than 2 online games on the market, and cheating has finally made its way to consoles, we will see a much more robust system against it.

/fingerscrosssed

:P

[chaosorb]

Just to note.

I believe that putting things client side helps lessen the load on the servers since they would have to do that for every player simultaneously.

Not for against it. Just thought to add that.

There are things you put client side and then there are things YOU DON'T put client side - just sayin....

[Zewks]

Just to note.

I believe that putting things client side helps lessen the load on the servers since they would have to do that for every player simultaneously.

Not for against it. Just thought to add that.

It would also be faster for banks to leave all the cash at the front door. Customers would be in and out in half the time.
Wonder why they dont do it that way... hmmmm.

[chaosorb]

It would also be faster for banks to leave all the cash at the front door. Customers would be in and out in half the time.
Wonder why they dont do it that way... hmmmm.

LOL! I like this guy

[CosmicDebri]

Someone early on mentioned something that should have been implemented when they put stats client side..... maybe it can still be put in at this stage..... If you have this stuff client side, the server should be able to check to see if something exceeds a maximum value. It may take a few microseconds more to so, but still....

Something like: if damage(shotgun)> 1000 then bootthemofo (anyone recognize the nod to BASIC there)? Obviously you'd need to know the maximum that could occur with variables such as overpower and hitting the sweet spots, etc.... but it would be a safety net of sorts......

Using hex editors is above a lot of peoples ability, but if 12 year olds can do it, not that hard....

[Archangel]

Maybe Trion can create a hack software that infects peoples computers when they download it.

It could pull peoples personal information then post it live during live streams.

That would be great. I would watch that for the laughs and people like, "How did they get my picture? Is that my bank account number? Who just hacked me! Grrrrrrr"

sweet justice imo.