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    This game is tedious, and anyone saying it is the opposite. Is either full of it, or fooling themselves into thinking otherwise. This is a game built around a painfully shallow premise. While other games in this genre are heavy on the grinding. They offer up something that this game doesn't. They refresh their experiences, or give the players the ability to refresh their experience. Most games in this genre keep players engaged by changing up the formula as players progress. Chances are after a few weeks you wont be fighting the same enemies you fought when you started out, in the same way as when you started out, or in the same places where you started out. You are even offered up alternative play styles that at the very least provide for some diversion.

    This game is feeling like we were all stuck in the same dungeon for two weeks fighting the exact same enemies over and over again. I will admit that I am no stranger to grinding, and I will do it to accomplish a worthwhile goal, but I would never play the same dungeon for two weeks straight let alone months on end. That isn't really a problem with other games. Once you get tired of a place you can pick up stakes, and move to a new dungeon with new enemies. If what you are playing isn't fulfilling you. Then you could always do a class change. Most games even allow you to play a more passive class like a crafting class, forager class, or a social class.

    You know the worst thing about this game is it promises a world built around a well crafted lore, but it isn't really a world that we are able to explore. It is just a lame third person strafe shooter, and the novelty of the online component wears pretty thin. When the game doesn't even encourage cooperative play. Oh it compels it in some instances, but we don't really need our fellow players, and we are all clones of one another.

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    durp

    you obviously dont pvp. Im having alot of fun doing competive matches and shadow wars. When im done pvping, i spend money to respec back to overcharge. Then i do co ops, arkfalls, or just follow the story.
    Despite all the bugs, i'm constantly recrashing my ps3 to get back in the action.
    If you really find the game to be so boring. I challenge you to cloak/shottie it up. then go blow somones face off, and tell me its not fun.

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    I played FFXI for a few years. That game is tedious. You grind camping spots over and over for days on end to gain items to craft. With defiance, your grinding comes from completing ark falls for and other smaller fights or helping people inorder to complete tasks for armor.

    Good luck on your quest to 1 million scrip, as tedious as it can be, the armor looks cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahsmokeshack View Post
    I played FFXI for a few years. That game is tedious. You grind camping spots over and over for days on end to gain items to craft. With defiance, your grinding comes from completing ark falls for and other smaller fights or helping people inorder to complete tasks for armor.

    Good luck on your quest to 1 million scrip, as tedious as it can be, the armor looks cool.
    This. I remember farming trivial **** like beeswax all week for my weekly COP mission runs in FFXI. That is tedious. I remember joining a party to level for 8 hours in the same spot to get 1 level. That is tedious. I remember dying, losing a level, and losing the ability to equip half of my new gear. That is tedious.

    I say horrible things about Defiance and I **** all over the Other Trion (not the Trion that made Rift), but Defiance is not a tedious game. It's incomplete; a playable vertical slice rather than a full MMO or TPS release.

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    pursuits bore me, no reason to do them, takes months to get 1 ugly outfit, that looks exactly like one of the other with slight different colors, and 5 XP is like nothing. and reputation items are really bad not worth getting at all,

    right now im stuck like any other, i\d like to play, but the bugged empty instances and weapons skills not advancing bugs are tedious

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    Had to do this.
    Have things you want to trade? Go to http://www.scripsandbits.com/forum/ for the unofficial Defiance Marketplace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeMoted View Post
    Ohh well they are all tedious. This one does have less to do considering the max is 5000 which I say is due to them rushing the game and leaving so much out.
    But that said every MMO ends up like this till new content come out.
    yeah your right. ive played a laundry list of MMORPGS this is my second MMOFPS the other is planetside 2. but that game is no where as good as this one.

    but in glad I just got this game that means I have a lot more to go and do. so new content will probally be out before I get board.

    but I never get board of arc events. its sweet to see so many people just arriving all at once going kill mode on those creepy hell bugs.

    I was actually surprised today when I was first at the scene and taking on the hellbugs and arc all by my loansome for about 5 minutes then all of a sudden a huge battalon of players show up and boom time.


    and for those of you that haven't done much reading and just getting into the game like me. in pvp people hate cloak shotgun...but know this overpower shotgun will destroy you faster...I tried it.

    but in the world PvE cloak is boss ammo and damage and shield up like no bodies business. but that's besides the point...

    THIS GAME IS AWESOME. GO FORTH AND DESTROY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwa View Post
    This. I remember farming trivial **** like beeswax all week for my weekly COP mission runs in FFXI. That is tedious. I remember joining a party to level for 8 hours in the same spot to get 1 level. That is tedious. I remember dying, losing a level, and losing the ability to equip half of my new gear. That is tedious.

    I say horrible things about Defiance and I **** all over the Other Trion (not the Trion that made Rift), but Defiance is not a tedious game. It's incomplete; a playable vertical slice rather than a full MMO or TPS release.

    The saddest part is I will probably play FFXIV version 2 once they let it out of Beta. Very well put though, I have many fond nights of falling asleep at my keyboard while crafting or trying to grind levels. Pre-set macros and hitting the same sequence of numbers over and over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahsmokeshack View Post
    The saddest part is I will probably play FFXIV version 2 once they let it out of Beta. Very well put though, I have many fond nights of falling asleep at my keyboard while crafting or trying to grind levels. Pre-set macros and hitting the same sequence of numbers over and over.
    I'm in the alpha/beta. It's a solid themepark now, much to the dismay of the people that want camping in one spot for 8 hours.

    I prefer playing Defiance, however, because it's novel. Whether or not this game will have any staying power is entirely up to the Other Trion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwa View Post
    I'm in the alpha/beta. It's a solid themepark now, much to the dismay of the people that want camping in one spot for 8 hours.

    I prefer playing Defiance, however, because it's novel. Whether or not this game will have any staying power is entirely up to the Other Trion.
    That actually sounds intriguing. That was the hardest part was grinding the same area for weeks on end.

    Defiance will do well because your right, it is novel and easy. but if they cant get the glitches and bugs worked out everyone will bail out except for the hardcore fans. I'm on the edge at this point. The next DLC will be the deciding factor.

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