(BIG) misconceptions about Defiance

[Stupid Drunk]

Really? "You couldn't pay a hellbug to bed you!". I play that emote all the time.

There are 2 player and 3 player transports - dodge hauls 2, cerberus holds 3. you're right though, no 4 yet.

You're missing arkfalls however, there are more than 4 players during those. I'd like to see someone tackle a major arkfall with 4.

I have seen several arkfalls fails, it happens. Not so much anymore though.

Hey fool the game scales arkfalls for more players in beta and full release. I have beat major arkfalls by myself in beta and full release because no one else showed up, so enemies have less health and die faster. more players equal more health more dmg to gain for weapons if no one else interferes with the kill.

[Ikagawa]

Hey fool the game scales arkfalls for more players in beta and full release. I have beat major arkfalls by myself in beta and full release because no one else showed up, so enemies have less health and die faster. more players equal more health more dmg to gain for weapons if no one else interferes with the kill.

You don't gain weapon experience in Arkfalls.

[nosworc]

One big gripe with the OP: THIS IS AN MMO and it is to be judged and reviewed as such. Really. It is not an MMORPG.

Your not getting the OP's point, yes it is an mmo but in reality it could have been sold as a four player Co-op game (Borderlands) and you would have the exact same gaming experience.

[Ikagawa]

Your not getting the OP's point, yes it is an mmo but in reality it could have been sold as a four player Co-op game (Borderlands) and you would have the exact same gaming experience.

Which I really hope they're working on. Defiance fulfills the definition of the term, but it's lacking in actual practice.

[Rhorge]

Your not getting the OP's point, yes it is an mmo but in reality it could have been sold as a four player Co-op game (Borderlands) and you would have the exact same gaming experience.

That's why it's a poor MMO, but still an MMO regardless. To say it's not an MMO is not even remotely reasonable.
PS: Please people, stop comparing the game to Borderlands. It's more like Lost Planet is you really have to do comparisons.

[Ikagawa]

That's why it's a poor MMO, but still an MMO regardless. To say it's not an MMO is not even remotely reasonable.
PS: Please people, stop comparing the game to Borderlands. It's more like Lost Planet is you really have to do comparisons.

Shoot glowy spots on things until they explode and drop different glowy things?

Definitely the same

[Buu]

My character is level xxx : No. Took me quite some time to figure that actually.

Actually you have a character level, but it's hidden : It's the total number of Points you can spend in your talent tree, since this number equals the number of time you maxed out the xp bar

It's not hidden. In the webpage of the game it's broken on sources of EGO rating.
http://www.defiance.com/en/my-ego/pr...-hub/#!/totals

[Propylen Glycol]

One big gripe with the OP: THIS IS AN MMO and it is to be judged and reviewed as such. Really. It is not an MMORPG.

jeeez calm down

First : I have NO gripe /w this game. Heard about it, tried the beta, pondered, inquired, decided to give it a go and support it. If i felt the game was bad (which i don't, and i actually reserve my final verdict up until i get the final dlc when i get all the content i paid 52 Euros for) i would just, you know, put the game on the shelf, say to myself "hey bad move but that's the name of the game" and move on ; not post on an official forum.

Second : One of the reason i bought this game is BECAUSE it's an mmo. I transfered all my gaming needs to console a few years back (when i set my rig to linux actually). There's no mmo (esp. a non fantasy, post apocalyptic, shooter gameplay one) on console, that's a big sales point which apparently worked very well on 360.

Third : I'm enjoying the game thank you very much for not asking just assuming.

Fourth : The whole argument MMO/MMORPG is actually kinda stupid to me, sorry. I won't see why this game can't be branded rpg as it has : a. quests, b. character sheet, c. customisable character progression, d. loot system. In video games only about 2 of those are sufficient to be labelled RPG (I come from pen and paper rpg so yeah that's not my definition of what an rpg is but it's the proper commercial designation) Diablo 2 is labelled aRPG, well this game is sort of a bit more than diablo with guns to me.

Fourth : You don't aknowledge nor deny any point raised in OP. You don't try to have a constructive discussion or even hammer point by point why OP is wrong... just monophrase underlined capital letters... with that i have a big gripe. But it's okay, nevermind, not my first forum rodeo

Fifth : I'm just saying that AS OF NOW, some ppl may be disappointed by the actual mmo portion of the game. That's the reason we've seen threads like "this is not an mmo" violin, sobbing met with utter nerd rage. I'm trying to explain that both side of the argument have a point.

peace

PS : I may actually change the wording since it's a bit provocative (just love that irl can't help) and doesn't help getting the point.

[Rhorge]

Shoot glowy spots on things until they explode and drop different glowy things?

Definitely the same

Which is what you did in Lost Planet.

[nosworc]

PS: Please people, stop comparing the game to Borderlands. It's more like Lost Planet is you really have to do comparisons.

Are you anti Borderlands or something? It's almost identical. Ark hunters....Vault hunters......ahem