Stop the stealth shotgun already

[Argos]

Be thankful its not someone hacking using all ego perks against you.

Yeah, that has happened to me probably 4 of the 5 times I've gone into PvP in the past hour. It's really annoying and makes me kind of never want to play the PvP portion of this game. Or at least until they fix that and add the damn Capture and Hold that they had NO issue running on the beta. Makes no sense.

[Natjur]

They need to fix the hackers first who can one shot with a LMG from half a map away.

[Archangel]

It's actually pretty easy to spot people using Cloak if you're paying attention.

The shotguns need to be nerfed a bit though IMO.

I would have to disagree.

Btw creep sig. I see two people and one of them is not so friendly looking.

Anyways,

The maps we have available cater to CQC - Close Quarter Combat. So its common place to use weapons that stand out in these situations.

It just so happens to be explosives and shotguns.

Freight Yard - once they release it, shotgun folks wont be as helpful or as effective. Its a large map with multiple levels and the best thing you can do with a shotgun is run circles around the objective points which are fairly open and leave little to stop a LMG or AR from killing a shotgunner.

So its not shotguns that are our problem.

Its the hackers who abuse the game.

[Seth Winternight]

Laughed so hard!!!

Success! Desired effect has been achieved!

[Era]

I cooped with a goo rocket bro recently while I was using a scoped LMG with overcharge and we wrecked shtako hard.

[TheRealTFreezy]

I imagine once more stacked parties and clans start playing these threads will be a thing of the past.

Actual teamwork > damn near everything else.

Finally I read intelligence

[DustOfDeath]

Ok, we stop!!!!!!

[echos]

cloakers can sit there totally invisible, no ripple effect, and shoot you in the back as you run past them. theres a perk for back-shooting, one shot with a shotgun and youre dead. getting instantly killed by invisible campers that shoot you in the back isn't very fun. it's not a hack either it's a perk.

cloak should always have a ripple effect and be for snipers only, one shot one kill, put it on a long cooldown after one single shot.

cloak and blur have the best perks too it's just stupid how powerful those perks are. the game was designed so you can unlock any of the skills/perks anywhere you wanted but now you cant. stupid stupid stupid. unbalanced and stupid.

[Beldhan]

most of the cloak user is forced to run to the action, with the right perk you can increase the duration, but you will need to chain kill people, fully reload your weapon or either.... then stay to one place and wait for people it's....well impossible... or ineffective.

personally i rush all the time, i'm more amazed by the number of people going all alone.... it's a team deathmatch... if you are alone, be sure that the wolf in the shadow will eat you

[Inflecto]

I imagine once more stacked parties and clans start playing these threads will be a thing of the past.

Actual teamwork > damn near everything else.

SADLY atm the game dosnt allow you more then 4 ppl to join. rest is just random if they are on your team or not. So you will allways have randoms with you. If they improve the grp que for pvp yeh sure teamwork will be great but atm its pretty hard to setup specialy in shadow war