Defiance Episode 2 Ratings down

[Orge Lambart]

I'd have to agree. WWE Raw (the monday show).. just hit it's 1,000th CONSECUTIVE EPISODE. That's massive. No other show in TV history has ever done that. So going up against it, you don't expect 3's and 4's from the antiquated Neilson system.. you expect 2's if you've got a good show. For example, the other 2 offerings on SyFy in the Monday slot.. Lost Girl and "Being Human".. both routinely hit in the low to mid 2's per week.. and both where just picked up for a FOURTH season (something that SyFy isn't known for doing). So.. perhaps someone at SyFy is understanding the juggernaut their facing in WWE's RAW in that time slot, and going "Hey.. We took a bite and got Mid-2's.. that's pretty damn good!"

Now.. if they moved to Thursdays.. they'd be competing with Greys Anatomy as well as TNA.. and that's ALMOST as bad as facing off with RAW. Perhaps if they moved it to Wednesday, where it's all reality crap shows that are going down the crapper, it'd get some really stellar reviews

Raw averages around 1.50 in the ratings. Although that number does go up and down based upon what's going on. The Rock coming back got them 2.50's for his showings.

TNA does garbage as far as ratings go, if I remember correctly. They pull sub 1's, although I haven't checked recently.

[Shastra]

I'd have to agree. WWE Raw (the monday show).. just hit it's 1,000th CONSECUTIVE EPISODE. That's massive. No other show in TV history has ever done that. So going up against it, you don't expect 3's and 4's from the antiquated Neilson system.. you expect 2's if you've got a good show. For example, the other 2 offerings on SyFy in the Monday slot.. Lost Girl and "Being Human".. both routinely hit in the low to mid 2's per week.. and both where just picked up for a FOURTH season (something that SyFy isn't known for doing). So.. perhaps someone at SyFy is understanding the juggernaut their facing in WWE's RAW in that time slot, and going "Hey.. We took a bite and got Mid-2's.. that's pretty damn good!"

Now.. if they moved to Thursdays.. they'd be competing with Greys Anatomy as well as TNA.. and that's ALMOST as bad as facing off with RAW. Perhaps if they moved it to Wednesday, where it's all reality crap shows that are going down the crapper, it'd get some really stellar reviews

Being Human and Lost Girl's budget doesn't even come close to that of Defiance. As stated by SYFY itself it is their most expensive show yet. So nope it is not going to survive on the same ratings as these two shows. it needs to do better much better or it will be canned.

Financially world is going in gutter, i doubt SYFY will be willing to just dump their money into a pit. Average isn't goo enough for TV these especially with such an expensive budget.

[Kleetas]

I'd have to agree. WWE Raw (the monday show).. just hit it's 1,000th CONSECUTIVE EPISODE. That's massive. No other show in TV history has ever done that. So going up against it, you don't expect 3's and 4's from the antiquated Neilson system.. you expect 2's if you've got a good show. For example, the other 2 offerings on SyFy in the Monday slot.. Lost Girl and "Being Human".. both routinely hit in the low to mid 2's per week.. and both where just picked up for a FOURTH season (something that SyFy isn't known for doing). So.. perhaps someone at SyFy is understanding the juggernaut their facing in WWE's RAW in that time slot, and going "Hey.. We took a bite and got Mid-2's.. that's pretty damn good!"

Now.. if they moved to Thursdays.. they'd be competing with Greys Anatomy as well as TNA.. and that's ALMOST as bad as facing off with RAW. Perhaps if they moved it to Wednesday, where it's all reality crap shows that are going down the crapper, it'd get some really stellar reviews

that is exactly true, i didnt think about wednesdays, the only good show i watch on wed is survivor in fact the only 3 reality shows i like is survivor, amazing race, and big brother. But yes Weds would be the best day for it

[Remag Div]

They won't do Wednesday's cause that's when Ghost Hunters is on (another popular show for them).

[Ikagawa]

They won't do Wednesday's cause that's when Ghost Hunters is on (another popular show for them).

[wrappy]

90% of the people who dislike the second episode did so because they didn't get to see their gun battles, explosions or other action scenes. That indicates they have ADD or some other attention issues. You provided your own reasons for disliking the show, you think the writing is terrible and the acting is mediocre. So may I ask what television shows you watch which are well written and has tremendous acting?

I love a lot of the references in the show, and the fun they poke and real life situations, it's just unfortunately too many people aren't smart enough to pick up on it.

I actually posted many examples of shows I like. since you didn't take the time to read it before so cleverly insulting me 8P, I'm happy to mention them again. I think homeland is probably the best written show on tv, plus amazing performances by mandy patinken and claire daines. I love game of thrones, the wire was great, boardwalk empire, jerseyliscious 8P . compare these shows to defiance. and tell me it's on the same level.

[wrappy]

People are as people are. For those of you who whine about shtako like character development go watch your lame dragonball z. I can recall TONS of people watching that and there was so much boring conversation that took place in that crappy anime.

I'm enjoying defiance thoroughly. If you aren't... stop watching and stop playing the game.

YEA, love it or leave it... hahaha... I don't like the show, doesn't mean I don't like the video game. pretty sure they were designed to be stand alone for this exact reason. : /

[SteveMND]

I've quite liked the show so far (altho it certainly isn't stellar or anything). My main issue, like a lot of shows theses days, seems to be with the pacing. Everything zips along so quickly. Like the reveal with the ex-mayor at the end of the first episode. I mean, they could have kept that as the 'unknown' individual for at least a couple episodes. Same thing with Irisa's character; seems like they are pushing a lot of developments a little too quick, and it shows. If you want to drive home a trait, or a plot point, or the like, you can't just present and then explain it away all in the same episode. You need some time to let it sit and percolate in the viewer's head a while.

[Teizar]

its no firefly or star trek that's for sure .... in every good show people need to like the characters that are in it whether because there plot engines or they are intriguing good or bad every character needs to be liked.

In defiance for the most part i feel as if i am joining a game of role players that have been at it for years and no one is explaining to me why the hell Irisa has a large stick up her ***

I know not ever one of my friends liked Sylar from heroes, an I gave it time for his character to develop an I liked this character even befor i found out that it was his power that made him dangerous an even more after, but Irisa .... i just want to shoot her in the face her every action, statement and personality seem to be out of place for having been raised by some one like Noland who is firm but easy going. Even the other Irathient seem to have more copasetic personality

[Cyripax NeoPrime]

Haven't been watching the forums lately, so don't know if it was already posted.


Episode 2 was down .33 million viewers to 2.40 from last week's episode's 2.73
Ratings in the 18-49 demo was down to 0.8 from last week's 1.0.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...s-more/179186/


That's to be expected from the 2nd episode of like... any new show. Though it's still higher than most of the stuff on SyFy.

Its a shame they only use live tv primetime for ratings, what about the ppl who are just to busy to watch at the exact moment it airs or work nights and still watch later. Ill bet you could double those ratings with everyone that watches the show off of on demand from thier cable providers