Sights and Scopes, or "Why my weapons won't ever be Fully Modded."

[JMadFour]

I use Pistols, Launchers, BMGs, and Infectors as my primary weapon types.

None of these things really benefit, imo, from having a Zoom-in, Tunnel Vision, Sniper-style scope. and in the case of a BMG, you can't even Zoom in anyhow. I don't even think you can use a scope mod at all for a BMG. which makes the BMG suffer compared to other 4-mod weapons.

yet, every "Scope" or "Sight" that there are in the game, as far as I can tell, is of the Sniper-Style variety.

sure this is fine for Sniper Rifles, ARs, and even LMGs and SOME pistols to an extent. but they really aren't beneficial, gameplay-wise, for a lot of weapons in the game.

"Scopes" and "Sights" need to be separated in function. currently they are one and the same.

"Scopes" should be the Sniper-style zoom-in scopes. the ones we have now.

"Sights" should be Iron-sight, ADS style. Zooms in slightly more than usual, but does not take us out of Third-Person View.

[Ninno20]

Agreed.
I want some iron sights.

[Tgreen]

Old news. If you just noticed this you're posting too much on the forums and play to little. Which one's higher, your post count or rating? : P


BMG is not the only weapon that can't be completely modded.

[Anim]

It would be nice to set a standard, always aim at X amount of zoom with Y graphic. So you could choose 10% zoom without a graphic, or 60% zoom with the commando scope.

Also, we still need a zoom sensitivity ratio setting, the reduction in sensitivity currently isn't even remotely amusing.

[ultispoon]

I made the mistake of putting a sight on my LMG. Now I cant see what I'm shooting at because the flare gets on the way of the sight. Seems silly.

[JMadFour]

Old news. If you just noticed this you're posting too much on the forums and play to little. Which one's higher, your post count or rating? : P


BMG is not the only weapon that can't be completely modded.

eh, I didn't just notice, I just now decided to post on it. *shrug*

also, I'd play more if I could get through a Co-Op without glitching out lol.

and for my other weapons, it isn't a matter of not being able to mod them with a scope. I'm making a conscious choice not to, because adding a scope to the weapons I use would make my gameplay worse, not better.

[Insanityplea]

Due to some developers **** up, i will not use scopes/sights until they are fixed.

As it stands, +accuracy = degrading your weapons accuracy. Search the forums, i aint the only one whos noticed it/tested it. As it currently stand "-accuracy" is a GOOD stats.

As far as I know, scopes and sights were meant to improve weapon accuracy and performance BUT someone screwed the pooch.

Fairly simple test.

Go to Top-Notch Toolworks
Buy Frontier Repeater x2
Attach scope to one repeater, leave other clean (modless)
Stand about 30m back from a wall and scope fire at some 'landmark' on the wall
sooner or later (better scope = sooner this happens) a bullet will stray off like something possessed. We arnt talking about maybe 2inches to the left folks, we are talking outside of your scoped vision.

[Tgreen]

Also, we still need a zoom sensitivity ratio setting, the reduction in sensitivity currently isn't even remotely amusing.

I don't even care anymore. When I first played Defiance I almost smashed the keyboard into the screen after a while.
Now it's just a slight reminder of how much work's ahead of Trion. One that pisses me the **** off now that I have to think about it.
Next to the salvage matrix, with no hotkey, it's one of the things that has 'from consoles, with love' written all over it in bright neon letters.

also, I'd play more if I could get through a Co-Op without glitching out lol.

Huh, I feel sorry for you. Co-ops are probably the only fun thing in the game that's still fun after doing it for an hour.

[MrGrinse]

I would agree. If there was a smaller sights/scope option I would use it more often. but as of now? Not really useful to me most of the time.

[dejarnat]

Here, here. Totally agree.