Why are people complaining about Jackleg and Nim???

[Agent A5]

They are so easy idk why ppl have a hard time with em, just sit behind the silver tanks and shoot the dudes, its not that hard to shoot the flame guys in the back if you knock em down with melee. Nim was easier than Jack imo. just run around shoot, run around, shoot, rinse repeat.

[Osmosis]

when i killed Nim i used a BMG, mobility is your friend in both those fights.

[Cerealkilla]

Listen to yourself...

WHAT IF players don't have the specific build (EGO skill, perks, weapon expertise, weapon mods, etc.) that you are so sure "makes the fight easy"?

WHAT IF players haven't practiced with those specific skills and weapons that you are so sure "makes the fight easy"?

I'm sorry, but reality bites. Stow your ego for a moment and acknowledge that not everyone played the game up to the point of those bosses in the same manner you did, and their build doesn't work against those bosses.

My own build turned out to be perfect (the luck of the draw) against Jackleg Joe, but completely useless against NIM. Am I now supposed to respec and learn a completely new build? If that is Trion's presumption (and yours), then players are perfectly right in claiming that these fights are BS.

This is worse than typical MMOs requiring a specific party mix to complete an endgame instance. It's a mentality that needs to go away in gaming. It fosters elitism (like yours) and removes players' freedom to choose how they want to play.

Well that's just your own fault for not choosing the same perks I did and being as good at shooters as I am Step your game up home slice!

[Fenruswolf]

I am sure I don't have the same perks as you Cerealkilla, and I defeated them. It's not precisely how you build, so much as does what you have complement your style of play. If someone is having a hard time, just keep at it, mix things up, and find what works best for you.

[Silverbluetree]

Listen to yourself...

WHAT IF players don't have the specific build (EGO skill, perks, weapon expertise, weapon mods, etc.) that you are so sure "makes the fight easy"?

WHAT IF players haven't practiced with those specific skills and weapons that you are so sure "makes the fight easy"?

I'm sorry, but reality bites. Stow your ego for a moment and acknowledge that not everyone played the game up to the point of those bosses in the same manner you did, and their build doesn't work against those bosses.

My own build turned out to be perfect (the luck of the draw) against Jackleg Joe, but completely useless against NIM. Am I now supposed to respec and learn a completely new build? If that is Trion's presumption (and yours), then players are perfectly right in claiming that these fights are BS.

This is worse than typical MMOs requiring a specific party mix to complete an endgame instance. It's a mentality that needs to go away in gaming. It fosters elitism (like yours) and removes players' freedom to choose how they want to play.

Agreed - I can not get past the 1st phase to even get to Joe and have stopped doing ALL solo missions.

I'm just not as good as most of you in this game and find it extremely frustrating I can't get any help from clan mates on these fights which IMO is total BS!!!

[Fenruswolf]

@Silverbluetree. If your clan mates aren't helping you, ditch them. Clans that don't help there members are worthless. Why else be in a clan? I am truly sorry you are having such a hard time. If you need help look me up in game and if I'm on, I'll jump in. My toon name is Ayowyn Maelstrum.

[Defenze]

Listen to yourself...

WHAT IF players don't have the specific build (EGO skill, perks, weapon expertise, weapon mods, etc.) that you are so sure "makes the fight easy"?

WHAT IF players haven't practiced with those specific skills and weapons that you are so sure "makes the fight easy"?

I'm sorry, but reality bites. Stow your ego for a moment and acknowledge that not everyone played the game up to the point of those bosses in the same manner you did, and their build doesn't work against those bosses.

My own build turned out to be perfect (the luck of the draw) against Jackleg Joe, but completely useless against NIM. Am I now supposed to respec and learn a completely new build? If that is Trion's presumption (and yours), then players are perfectly right in claiming that these fights are BS.

This is worse than typical MMOs requiring a specific party mix to complete an endgame instance. It's a mentality that needs to go away in gaming. It fosters elitism (like yours) and removes players' freedom to choose how they want to play.

Very well said. Way too many "know it alls" are on these boards pretending to tell all of us poor sorry gamers, just how stupid we are for having a hard time with Teach and Nim. In the words of a long ago song, " it's hard to be humble when your perfect in every way". Some of you Jack-legs need to search for the definition of humility. And then practice the emotion. It may help your personality so very much. No body likes a know it all. Nobody.

[pmartin44]

The so called EASY Battle with Nim is total friggen BS

[Balan]

Listen to yourself...

WHAT IF players don't have the specific build (EGO skill, perks, weapon expertise, weapon mods, etc.) that you are so sure "makes the fight easy"?

WHAT IF players haven't practiced with those specific skills and weapons that you are so sure "makes the fight easy"?

I'm sorry, but reality bites. Stow your ego for a moment and acknowledge that not everyone played the game up to the point of those bosses in the same manner you did, and their build doesn't work against those bosses.

My own build turned out to be perfect (the luck of the draw) against Jackleg Joe, but completely useless against NIM. Am I now supposed to respec and learn a completely new build? If that is Trion's presumption (and yours), then players are perfectly right in claiming that these fights are BS.

This is worse than typical MMOs requiring a specific party mix to complete an endgame instance. It's a mentality that needs to go away in gaming. It fosters elitism (like yours) and removes players' freedom to choose how they want to play.

Very well said. I totally agree with this. It took me over a month with Nim. The other boss wasnt so hard for me but was still a difficult fight.

[Cerealkilla]

Don't be bad?