Trion Shows Us How To Kill A Game In Three Easy Steps

[fang1192]

Or you could just like at the overall tone of the forums and every game review out there and make a well educated guess.

Defiance is not the success it should have been, like it or not.

Youre going to make an educated guess based on a forum, already a minority of players, then use the tone of the forums, where the most vocal are negative and once again in the minority, as the basis? So your "educated" guess is based on the minority of a minority?

[Panthan]

Dave - troll, not worth answering.
Fang and Jeff- vehicle kills don't drop ammo, so just powering through isn't usually possible when griefers/exploiters are around.
Peon - troll, nwa.
Eisberg - thanks for the link, but you DID notice it doesn't really address fixes for any of my points?
Spencley - you are, unfortunately, correct. Wonder if ratings for Defiance The Show is gonna take a hit from all this?

Lets start off with this.
Disagreeing with you is NOT the same as trolling.
Dave has been absolutely correct, even with people constantly killing spawns ammo is more then plentyfull around arkfalls, especially since most spots have ammo dumps nearby.
As for your tv show comment, no, the game may draw people TO the show but the state of the game wont really effect the amounth of people watching it.

1) Make players compete for extremely limited resources by forcing 'credit only by participation' on individual kills for pursuits and side missions - for instance, the blastopod pursuit at Diablo is now a long and frustrating chore.

2) Reward hacking by putting basic game data on the game's client-side, then don't listen to players' complaints and fail to enforce bans on hackers, cheaters, exploiters.

3) Allow grief play by building fail exploits into important game goals, and encourage grief play by designing the game with no player complaint system - for instance, one or two players can block completion of entire hellbug arkfalls (and thus keycode rewards) by simply using a vehicle to kill spawns, blocking ammo drops and arkfall damage.

Get it together, Trion. How much longer will Syfy back your failures?

1) Same issue in pretty much every mmo, except this one lets you share credit by just tagging it. I do somewhat agree the co-ops needing some tweaking.

2) Unfortunately hackers and exploiters are everywhere. I wouldnt mind seeing a more agressive stance against this but, its a very safe bet that trion IS working on some sollutions.

3) Ammo is painfully plentyfull and most locations DO have ammo dumps, or atleast nearby.

4) Yes I do disagree with you on most points there for I am a troll.

[Aaricane]

Youre going to make an educated guess based on a forum, already a minority of players, then use the tone of the forums, where the most vocal are negative and once again in the minority, as the basis? So your "educated" guess is based on the minority of a minority?

I would agree with you usually. However its not just this forum in particular. Its not well liked on just about every gaming website/forum i've looked at. Game reviews are ripping the game in half constantly and sales numbers, tho not including digital downloads, are not that good at all.

I'd go as far to say that at least 50-60% of people that have bought/played Defiance, do not like it.
And that's not a very good thing for any game.....

[IGN]

At least they are suspending hackers. A few people that I know were hacking got suspended and a warning. Quite a few still did not, but hey it's a start.

Now they just need to remove the damn credit only for participating crap and we would be golden.

[rethu]

thanks for sharing lol

[6Strummer]

Oh look another anti-defiance topic......

You knwo if you found one of the other dozens of threads and discussed it in that thread, it could actually get to be large enough for someome important to bother taking notice.

Well that way they wouldn't get their name at the top of the thread. Can't have that.

[MacDeath]

I would agree with you usually. However its not just this forum in particular. Its not well liked on just about every gaming website/forum i've looked at. Game reviews are ripping the game in half constantly and sales numbers, tho not including digital downloads, are not that good at all.

I'd go as far to say that at least 50-60% of people that have bought/played Defiance, do not like it.
And that's not a very good thing for any game.....

The average for ALL MMOs is that only 30% of those who bought the game are still playing after a month. In subscription based games it's easy to track, no so much so here.

Two big reasons for people to leave:
1. They aren't having much fun and they've accomplished all they wanted too.
2. It's not the style of game they enjoy. ie: They don't like shooters and didn't realize Defiance was one.

[Spruence]

1. Complaint about a fix to prevent exploiting
2. Complain about hacking and grossly overestimate its frequency, complain about exploits despite see 1
3. Complain about grief play which isn't actually grief play and instead just players inconveniencing other players in order to meet their own ends, something that happens in literally every MMO out there.

Just because hacking and crap takes place in all MMOs, doesn't make it acceptable...

Edit:
I like the game, so please don't tell me i'm hating on it. There are just a thousand things that I wish were better. I won't quit playing, not for a while.

[Redman20]

Or the HUGE variety of bugs that are detrimental to the game, we complain about it, so the devs decide to only fix the bugs that HELP people while leaving game breaking bugs in.

[Archeus9]

How about -

Promise the player base regular content updates to coincide with the TV Show. Then fail to keep at it and add 3 lousy pursuits as "big content that we should look forward to" Combined with lack of bug fixing holding players progress, Constant loss of Skill levels...Purchasing Lock boxes using rare keycodes which take ages to farm to then get nothing at all or random trash to sell, Still the game is plagued with hackers and riddled with bugs/exploits

The damage has been done, A huge chunk of the player base has ditched the game... They need to think of something and implement it quick and then explain why they have failed to incorporate the most basic of MMO aspects.

This. Very much this. I want to play the game but honestly i ask myself why. Its a decent shooter but i wonder how much influence it actually has on the show. seems nothing at all. not to mention i haven't seen a single enemy we faced on the game shown on the show. Dont even get me started on what arkfalls are in the game vs on the show.