Whats worse: Fanboy Trolls or Complaining Trolls

[chefwhitey]

You beat the game huh? So how does the story end?

Wow you are a mega nerd! I beat the game to its completion of the content that was shipped with out any expansions added. Like most games you beat what was shipped and then you get expansion packs to keep playing the game. It ended in a cliffhanger btw...

[chefwhitey]

Complaining trolls since they don't address such issues most of them just plain out say the game sucks because of this and that and never say anything constructive to help resolve or remove a issue. Also they've already created or I like to say spammed the forums with this game sucks or give me a refund threads that are completely pointless.

A lot of the time they start out trying to be constructive, but then they get trolled by fanboys and then there threads end up like that. I seen way to many that has happened too.

[EdgeTW]

Unfortunately, there is no doubt in my mind this thread is going to get locked sooner or later, and I said (and stand by) everything I wanted to say in my first two posts.. so, good luck!

[Cynical Jester]

Wow you are a mega nerd! I beat the game to its completion of the content that was shipped with out any expansions added. Like most games you beat what was shipped and then you get expansion packs to keep playing the game. It ended in a cliffhanger btw...

Rather be a "mega nerd" (which ironically sounds way more nerdy than anything I'd say but....) I'd rather be that than an attention *****.

I also highly doubt you've completed every goal under season 1 pursuits.

[Embril]

But, sadly, the people complaining are the ones who will always look like the bad guys, but in reality they're the ones lighting the fires under complacency, being the squeaky wheels and pointing out the problems so the rest can benefit from the fixes.

"Oh my god, ****butt4237 hates the way that quest works...get someone on that, right away!" -- example of something that never happens and never will in the history of ever


If enough people say something and provide feedback about one particular system, then sure. Things get changed with that system. That's feedback, however, not complaining, and the two aren't the same at all.

I've never seen a game where people whining and complaining constantly ever helped anything. Give constructive feedback if you don't like something, post away. The complaining does nothing but drown out worthwhile feedback, however, and drives people away that have any intention of communicating anything but frustration. It also drowns out the voices of people that aren't upset, and forcing changes on their happy playerbase to appease the loudest group is a mistake that way too many MMO developers make considering the small hardcore group of players that even posts to the forums.

Complaining like you see it on the forum right now is cancerous to a game's society, especially when the game lacks a coherent chat system for people to communicate in-game away from it right now.

[RegularX]

Because community personnel don't file daily/weekly reports on the current forum hot topics, right? Are you sure you work in the industry?

I think the mistake a lot of the people who either keep making the same thread over and over, or necro up old ones, or repeat the same complaint - is that it isn't nearly as hot of a topic as you might think. Oh, it's hot for YOU - sure, but that simply beating that drum over and over again doesn't mean that Trion is going to suddenly be like "oh wow, we better make our leveling system work like WoW or whatnot".

Like the thread that just popped up that Defiance was sold under false marketing. That thread has two possible outcomes: it will let the OP troll on, or it will get locked. That is all.

[Paklo]

Internet patching and updates have made game developers weak. They skip debugging and go straight to release. Figuring that the people who purchase the product will do their work for them and they can fix the problems later, and only if they absolutly have to. Meanwhile they can release their product earlier. There was a time that a game had to be debugged before it shipped. And gamers weren't a bunch of weak willed brainwashed fanboy sheep who let the industry abuse them while picking their pockets clean.

I get that it's hard to run these games, but it's their job. Just like the job I have, that earned the 60 bucks that I bought the game with. Now their game is bugged but my money seemed to work just fine. Doesn't sound like an equal trade to me.

[RegularX]

A lot of the time they start out trying to be constructive, but then they get trolled by fanboys and then there threads end up like that. I seen way to many that has happened too.

Says the guy who started a thread accusing Defiance of being sold fraudulently.

[khanstruct]

I've never seen a game where people whining and complaining constantly ever helped anything.

Well sure! Star Wars Galaxies, NGE!

...oh wait :/

[wilks]

Fanboy Trolls: Act like this game is perfect and anyone that says anything bad about it is just flat out wrong. And are completely in denial about anything negative about the game. From bad sales, bad critic reviews, major bugs/ glitches, bad patches, and exc.



Complaining Trolls: They actually hope this game will succeed and see the potential, but try to address the issues instead of burying there heads in the sand. So Trion might notice what there honest customers are thinking about the game.

Or people get frustrated with a buggy game and try to make their complaints while they're still mad. Doesn't mean they don't have a point to make. But yea, the message can be lost in a bad way.