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    Quote Originally Posted by Stino View Post
    If you bought a brand new car, and you thought it was super cool, but you discovered it only had 1 tire. Would you take it to the repair shop, or would you say **** AND DRIVE IT QQ QUIT DRIVING, MINE DRIVES JUST FINE NOOB CRYER.

    The game is pretty decent, but there are massive issues with it that need to be fixed.
    There aren't "massive issues" in pvp. Sure there are some balance issues that need to be addressed. The thing is... afterwards the people that are bad now... will still be bad. There are plenty of viable guns/builds in PVP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGBEES View Post
    There aren't "massive issues" in pvp. Sure there are some balance issues that need to be addressed. The thing is... afterwards the people that are bad now... will still be bad. There are plenty of viable guns/builds in PVP.
    Even if the guns weren't broken, there are still only 2 PvP maps, and 0 PvP rewards.

    You are telling me you are OK with this, and think 2 PvP maps with 0 rewards or ranking system is typical for a game such as this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stino View Post
    Even if the guns weren't broken, there are still only 2 PvP maps, and 0 PvP rewards.

    You are telling me you are OK with this, and think 2 PvP maps with 0 rewards or ranking system is typical for a game such as this?
    Considering this game isn't really focusedon, nor does it revolve around pvp like games such as CoD, I would say yeah rankings and what not are futile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stino View Post
    Even if the guns weren't broken, there are still only 2 PvP maps, and 0 PvP rewards.

    You are telling me you are OK with this, and think 2 PvP maps with 0 rewards or ranking system is typical for a game such as this?
    After a single month of a major MMO launch that spans 3 platforms... with multiple problems not having anything to do with PVP.

    Yes.

    Sure, Trion has lost a few points with me because of all of the issues.... but I am still enjoying the pvp. Not only are there 2 pvp maps... but you can take part in shadow wars. The build diversity and fun gameplay in PVP are more than enough to keep me around until we see the return of Freight Yard and whatever else will be released for PVP after that. It has only been a month... just give them a bit more time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stino View Post
    After one month, PvP is still limited to two CQC maps, with freight yard STILL being nonoperational due to some bug that I never experienced in the hours and hours I played it during the beta.

    After one month, there are still no rewards for PvPing, no weapons, armor, titles, PvP ranking/stat saving system. (In before you guys flame me saying PvP gives exp and one keycode. Every time I randomly press buttons in this game I get EXP and a keycode, so that isn't saying much.)

    After one month, there is still no reason to use any of the weapons this game has to offer other than very situational use in PvP. Lets face it. Shotgun/Infestor/Detonator/Cluster Rocket Launcher are the only viable choices. Sure there may be some I am missing, but actual REAL GUNS (Assault Rifle, Sniper, Pistol, LMG) are awful. You may claim to be some kind of 9-2 PvP god with Assault rifles, and that's great. But look at the overall picture. No one uses these weapons for a reason. They are all terrible compared to a Grind Fragger or an Infestor with a Burst Mag installed.

    After one month, the very few reasons to PvP (Pursuits) are bugged and un-earnable.

    So the question I ask you all is.....

    Why do you PvP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwane View Post
    http://trionworlds.com/en/careers/san-diego/ Trion still looking for Defiance multiplayer designer, so not gona heppen in near future.
    Yeah, because Trion probably doesn't have anyone else working on it. /sarc

    They have told us that they are working on a stats page where we can all compare our epeens... which I imagine will include a leader board of some sort. They will also be adding more maps and making balance changes... you know... like any MMO ever has done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stino View Post
    After one month, PvP is still limited to two CQC maps, with freight yard STILL being nonoperational due to some bug that I never experienced in the hours and hours I played it during the beta.

    After one month, there are still no rewards for PvPing, no weapons, armor, titles, PvP ranking/stat saving system. (In before you guys flame me saying PvP gives exp and one keycode. Every time I randomly press buttons in this game I get EXP and a keycode, so that isn't saying much.)

    After one month, there is still no reason to use any of the weapons this game has to offer other than very situational use in PvP. Lets face it. Shotgun/Infestor/Detonator/Cluster Rocket Launcher are the only viable choices. Sure there may be some I am missing, but actual REAL GUNS (Assault Rifle, Sniper, Pistol, LMG) are awful. You may claim to be some kind of 9-2 PvP god with Assault rifles, and that's great. But look at the overall picture. No one uses these weapons for a reason. They are all terrible compared to a Grind Fragger or an Infestor with a Burst Mag installed.

    After one month, the very few reasons to PvP (Pursuits) are bugged and un-earnable.

    So the question I ask you all is.....

    Why do you PvP?
    well I just pvp to get back to my core.... cause I am a pvp player at heart. The game is good enough at the start even with bugs and lack of maps, rewards etc... Ha I might change my mind and run a guild in this game however there is a lot to fix so I just wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by OMGBEES View Post
    Yeah, because Trion probably doesn't have anyone else working on it. /sarc
    They have ppl working on Rift, look what happened to WoW when ppl left for project Titan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwatos View Post
    I pvp to make people like you cry on the forums instead of respecing to cloak and shotgun.
    There. Fixed.

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    Just as a quick reference: It took Blizzard like...a year to bring PVP to WoW - and it was absolutely horrible. WoW was pretty bad for the first few months after release, due to bugs that were just......no.

    If you expect all of the good **** out of the game from day 1 launch, what would be the point in having an MMO? Would you rather have solid game play, or PVP weapons with .5% more nano-trigger effect? 99% would go with solid > gear. I do agree that PVP is a little unbalanced when it comes to EVO+Weapon combo, but the same can be said about WoTLK PVP when DK's were added....that **** was terrible.

    If you want to play Defiance solely for PVP, and are an impatient being, you should probably find another game...like LoL! BUT if you don't mind waiting then stick with it.

    Just revel in the fact that the PVP is 5,234^5 times better than SWTOR PVP.

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