CCP is tricksy

[VillNess]

PS3 Title only, not interested in purchasing a over-priced blu-ray player. If Dust is as entertaining as Eve, I'll pass regardless of it's platform.

"Who's the good troll? Who's the good troll? Here take this"
*Gives a cookie*

[ZombieTech]

Now the first day of this "open beta" just so happens to be the day of the largest lore event in EvE/Dust in 10 years.

Surprised nobody else corrected this... or if they did, I must have accidentally missed it.

Anywho, just to clarify so misinformation doesn't go getting people all worked up again, it's actually a closed-beta.

[YOUTUBE_PDIGGY22]

What's cheesy with a shotgun? It takes more skill then you think, especially compared to what I remember from Dust.

shotguns are typically op in just about every mmo shooter, take 2-3 bullets to kill, while I empty a clip from an AR just to break your shields. The pvp portion is horribly balanced, it's all about who has found/made the better weapon in PvE, I like that aspect but the PvP outcome is based 100% on it...

Like yesterday I was getting killed by mutation bugs in PvP, the enemy didn't even have to hit me, just shoot in my general direction and they do the rest of the work, pretty lame.

[Asheki]

Shotguns aren't OP, they're meant to kill someone quickly if they can get into close range and hit you in the face with it. As much as you want to cry about it like everyone does, its normal. Next you'll want to say that Sniper rifles are op for one shooting people with a headshot? If someone's killing you with a shotgun, get range on them.. they won't be able to use the shotgun's forte.. its simple logic especially if you think you know anything about shooters.

You're aware that the PvP in Dust is completely broken and utterly unbalanced right? Between all the mess up they've made and how they respond to the QQing by continually trying to gimp things. It was broken when I got in, its most likely still broken if they continued in the path they'd taken. Especially since they seemed to just keep piling up new features instead of trying to balance the gameplay.

Sure there's still things that are unbalanced in Defiance, its a beta that is pretty damn old, and it has a ton of wacky weapons in it.. from the infector to crazy rocket launchers. It was kind of obvious from how much they showed that there would be a lot of work to be done with the balancing. But the beauty of it is that it offers so much more in terms of different gameplay then Dust ever could because of how they more or less broke it.

In defiance, you can go in saying 'this is what I want to do' and do it fine, you can hardly do that in Dust because of how it ends up in what they have available. You go in and you can easily see how broken the game feels, how clunky the controls are.. and how horrible the hit register can be at all times.

The PvP in defiance is a lot more then 'who got the best gun', and it takes a lot more tactical skill then you would see in Dust.. and a lot more team work, which funny enough you see more often in Defiance then Dust.

Btw, getting killed by something doesn't make it OP.

[YOUTUBE_PDIGGY22]

Shotguns aren't OP, they're meant to kill someone quickly if they can get into close range and hit you in the face with it. As much as you want to cry about it like everyone does, its normal. Next you'll want to say that Sniper rifles are op for one shooting people with a headshot? If someone's killing you with a shotgun, get range on them.. they won't be able to use the shotgun's forte.. its simple logic especially if you think you know anything about shooters.

You're aware that the PvP in Dust is completely broken and utterly unbalanced right? Between all the mess up they've made and how they respond to the QQing by continually trying to gimp things. It was broken when I got in, its most likely still broken if they continued in the path they'd taken. Especially since they seemed to just keep piling up new features instead of trying to balance the gameplay.

Sure there's still things that are unbalanced in Defiance, its a beta that is pretty damn old, and it has a ton of wacky weapons in it.. from the infector to crazy rocket launchers. It was kind of obvious from how much they showed that there would be a lot of work to be done with the balancing. But the beauty of it is that it offers so much more in terms of different gameplay then Dust ever could because of how they more or less broke it.

In defiance, you can go in saying 'this is what I want to do' and do it fine, you can hardly do that in Dust because of how it ends up in what they have available. You go in and you can easily see how broken the game feels, how clunky the controls are.. and how horrible the hit register can be at all times.

The PvP in defiance is a lot more then 'who got the best gun', and it takes a lot more tactical skill then you would see in Dust.. and a lot more team work, which funny enough you see more often in Defiance then Dust.

Btw, getting killed by something doesn't make it OP.

Defiance has no balance at all it's all about the who ever has the best weapons, i'll make a video proving it once I get them.

When the majority of players single out one weapon and use it exclusively chances are it's OP.

[mitsuko]

Dust is the 2nd worst shooter I've ever played after Haze. It has no redeeming qualities. Trust me xbox and pc gamers, you're not missing anything. No serious gamer would put time/effort/money into playing Dust, its terrible.

[Spaisekraft]

Defiance has no balance at all it's all about the who ever has the best weapons, i'll make a video proving it once I get them.

When the majority of players single out one weapon and use it exclusively chances are it's OP.

So you're saying the shotgun is better at medium range than an AR? And better at long range than a sniper rifle? Or are you just saying that shotguns dominate close range?

[Dead_Phoenix]

So you're saying the shotgun is better at medium range than an AR? And better at long range than a sniper rifle? Or are you just saying that shotguns dominate close range?

shotguns dominate close range.

[YOUTUBE_PDIGGY22]

So you're saying the shotgun is better at medium range than an AR? And better at long range than a sniper rifle? Or are you just saying that shotguns dominate close range?

there is so much health that the amount of time it takes to kill someone with an ar makes them irrelevant,at least that was my experience yesterday with a mid level AR.

[Asheki]

there is so much health that the amount of time it takes to kill someone with an ar makes them irrelevant,at least that was my experience yesterday with a mid level AR.

Are you at least hitting your target? Or aiming for let's say.. the head?