Contribution "FIX" is actually "KILLING" the game...

[Facade]

I just got this game and I came into this game expecting how it is now. Getting credit for something you didn't do just sounds ridiculous.

If I joined before this fix I woulda found it very odd that i was getting credit for nothing and then parked myself every night at "hot spots" for some easy xp i suppose.

The issue isn't that they fixed that you can't stand around and leech of people (why don't people get this?), it's that even in a group if you are all taking out enemies stuff happening in your group doesn't count for you.

[Roan Valorin]

Sounds like people are seeing a bug as a feature and exploding on them like it was intended.

Im sure group play should still work in their eyes with sharing kills. but changing features tend to bring up unexpected results. I foresee this being worked on. It's not game breaking, just frustrating atm it seems. And if you claim it game breaking, then you dont know what game breaking is.

And before anyone thinks im supporting the no sharing in group, you're wrong.

[Facade]

Sounds like people are seeing a bug as a feature and exploding on them like it was intended.

Im sure group play should still work in their eyes with sharing kills. but changing features tend to bring up unexpected results. I foresee this being worked on. It's not game breaking, just frustrating atm it seems. And if you claim it game breaking, then you dont know what game breaking is.

And before anyone thinks im supporting the no sharing in group, you're wrong.

I don't think it's game breaking, but there is something wrong when you DON'T want your friends or anyone near you questing because of it.

[TE5LA]

This is what happens when a few people cry loudly. The developers rush to the aid of the 3 people crying, and fail to realize that there are 24 other people who disagree. Because the 24 other people, didn't whine.

Hey, like I always say:

"If it ain't fixed, why break it?"

[Swampster]

I just did Delta Bunker again... despite playing like an ******* and trying to tag everything and everything, getting the highest kill count, and highest damage. I still only managed to get 3 of the damned sights, if I'd played in my usual manner I might have been lucky to get one.

I don't think trying 'force' me to do Delta Bunker (or whatever other stupid tag race) 5-6 times a night to complete a 'daily' is going to be all that endearing going forward... :/

[Draconerus]

Yeah, it's ridiculous trying to complete contracts atm.

[BrassRazoo]

Delta Bunker is the worst for this.
I tend to try and "share" but after 3 or 4 runs I go screw it and just try and scab everything .. still doesn't work all that well.

[Ashvan Aeronor]

Honestly doesent like this change either. It doesent encourage Group play at all.
Just an example. If we look into the future of Defiance like they have written in their New blog. Plan is to implent New content With harder Challenges. Lets just say that one player then is required to heal other team mates. In any scenario that player then wont be rewarded With quest items since he is healing? In my opinion this is a stepback in gameplay and the fun of grouping up With others.

[Fiontar]

The contribution "FIX" is actually "KILLING" the game. No longer is spreading out and grouping up encouraged to complete contracts and quests etc. People simply try to tag mobs first or kill steal now as this new "FIX" discourages people to work together. This is a game breaker for an MMO or any social game.

I understand why this fix was done, HOWEVER, this should not be how it is in groups. In groups you should get credit for group member's kills and if you help someone kill a mob you should ALSO gain credit to encourage the social aspect of the game and allow players to work together to achieve their goals while encouraging a close knit community.

I know this has been said MANY times on the forums, but I had to say it too just to ensure my voice is heard and hope others will express their disappointment with Trion and this "FIX" as well.

I completely agree. Sort of makes it seem like the developers just want to suicide the game so they can go about devoting their time and effort on another project. It's baffling to me that any one at Trion could have ever thought this fix was a good idea.

Frankly, the game is hanging on by the barest thread that is the ability of the remaining players to find some small enjoyment from continued play. Nothing and I mean nothing, at this point, that has even the slightest chance of making the game even the least bit less enjoyable should get any consideration from the developers for the next three months. I wouldn't nerf anything, nada, not because there aren't some balance issues here, but because any nerf will knock another bunch of players right out of the game, with few likely to return.

They can't afford to do anything that sours the player base and, frankly, they already have way too much work ahead of them to even be thinking about balance right now.

The game was obviously seriously rushed. It doesn't even come close to minimum expectations for a modern MMO and what it does deliver is full of serious buginess. In spite of all that the game lacks, some people still manage to find some fun from it. The moment it stops being fun, it really loses what little it has to offer.

The game needs to be a lot more fun to a lot more people before they can even consider that the playerbase will be ready to accept any "necessary" nerfs and even then, they better make adjustments with a laser scalpel to the nearest millimeter, because the game just doesn't offer enough, nor have the developers built sufficient good will with players, to nerf anything in a ham handed manner.

[twitch reflex]

Yeah this new fix isn't good. I waited for a while to get the emergency that spawns 2 electric archers. And while reviving someone another person killed them. This is not fun. It makes you not want to play with friends or help others.