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    Quote Originally Posted by fatoldguy View Post
    Casual friendly is what is killing the MMO genre.
    No, it's the whine-bag gamers like you who are killing the genre. People leave the game because you bring a stress level to it that takes away the fun and enjoyment a game is supposed to supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamerian View Post
    No, it's the whine-bag gamers like you who are killing the genre. People leave the game because you bring a stress level to it that takes away the fun and enjoyment a game is supposed to supply.
    Allowing the casual player to obtain everything seriously waters down the MMO genre because these games are supposed to be deep and last more than a few weeks. There are ways to please both and i feel game developers really need to start making games that cater for both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J1xx3r View Post
    Hello,

    The talkGEEK community have finished their review on this game. We will be revisiting the game after a few months for an update to see how things are progressing. We do not give scores, just relevant feed back for gamers and developers.

    talkGEEK Review for Defiance

    Wish the Devs all the best in the future and good luck.

    Thanks for reading, have fun all :-)
    Really appreciate all the great feedback!

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    I'm more of the opinion that the hardcore/casual dichotomy is causing more harm to gaming than the lack or streamlining of any particular type of content.

    There is no us vs. them. What people refer to as "hardcore" or "casual" are two extremes on a variable spectrum. And very, very few players that sling mud are actually at the extreme they claim to represent in the non-debate.

    It's like the nonsense in the console space-- 360 vs PS3.

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    Hardcore Gamers = small fraction of the community....casual gamers = most of the community, who do you think they care more about? This is a business, you cater to those who will make you the most money.

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    i really dont give a **** about anybodies stupid review, it dont mean **** and why do we need to see what you think about the game unless you are trying to impose your view onto others in a effort to try and cause other people to leave the game. i mean really if you dont like it than shut your mouth and dont let the door hit ya. save your so called reviews for your website not here. and for your group of geeks, running through games that fast and not slowing down and taking the time to enjoy games and stupid also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acelee View Post
    i really dont give a **** about anybodies stupid review, it dont mean **** and why do we need to see what you think about the game unless you are trying to impose your view onto others in a effort to try and cause other people to leave the game. i mean really if you dont like it than shut your mouth and dont let the door hit ya. save your so called reviews for your website not here. and for your group of geeks, running through games that fast and not slowing down and taking the time to enjoy games and stupid also.
    Wow, now imagine what you would have said if the review was slobbering all over Defiance.
    Careful, you might loose this fight, Anne Frankly why does everybody have to bring up the Nazis?

    As quoted by Justin CarMicheal

    That's the thing-- they have the right philosophy, but they implemented it so poorly players can't see it. So they ask for other genres to get copy/pasted over.

    As quoted by Schwa

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    not really interested in fan boy opinions and to be honest hardcore MMO'er are more important than you like to think. The best way is for us not to hate each other but for developers to see all views from Role players, casual players and hardcore players we all matter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J1xx3r View Post
    not really interested in fan boy opinions and to be honest hardcore MMO'er are more important than you like to think. The best way is for us not to hate each other but for developers to see all views from Role players, casual players and hardcore players we all matter!
    Fan boy... interesting. You must not have been reading any of my posts.

    I'm simply saying so-called hardcore players aren't as important as they like to think, nor are they as unimportant as the self-professed "casuals" like to think.

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    no mate I was not replying to you directly :-) er so reading your reply you agree with me? that we all matter? come on share the love and have a group hug :-p

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