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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogo_Yahagi View Post
    So how is a gear curve different than the EGO curve? If the veteran player has 9 maxed out perks optimized to their playing style, and the starting player has one or two of the ones that first become available, doesn't that also provide the veteran with an edge that isn't based on skill? Do you think the starting player will see it differently?

    I mean, it's PvP, so I'm not really invested in the argument either way, except Trion keeps screwing with the PvE side to try to balance PvP. I'm just curious how people justify one but not the other.
    True, the perks are the only difference between lower and higher level, while they make a difference I do not think I have seen where they make a drastic difference; That is they help but they are not all powerful.

    I am more interested in PvE myself, PvP balance trashes PvE.

    My concern on the PvE side is the idea of raid gear in addition to the idea of rewarding top ark-fall scores with the best gear. That is a recipe to ensure raiders dominate and lock non-raiders out of gear upgrades.

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    Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words.

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    I think game's population is dropping so fast devs have to make as much promises as they could to stop the exodus (example: my clan has barely 10% of players online max - and first month didn't even end yet)

    And 1 month after release I'm yet to see red suit from Deluxe pre-order - if couple strings in database take that much time to change for Defiance dev team I think we shouldn't expect even half of those things in the blog during this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogo_Yahagi View Post
    So how is a gear curve different than the EGO curve? If the veteran player has 9 maxed out perks optimized to their playing style, and the starting player has one or two of the ones that first become available, doesn't that also provide the veteran with an edge that isn't based on skill? Do you think the starting player will see it differently?
    optimally, none of the perks would be powerful enough that it really matters. A lot of the perks are built that way "9% more crit damage when crouched" "10% more crit damage when your target is moving toward you" those aren't game changers. Admittedly, there are some perks that will flat out improve your performance greatly and that is a bit of a balance issue.

    Maybe they should lock the amount of perks available for everyone in PvP. IDK, It definitely is an advantage and I really wouldn't mind if they leveled that playing field as well. Hell, unlock all perks for everyone in PvP I don't mind.

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    There are couple of items in that list which allude to Trion altering the horizontal progression of the game.

    I cannot stress enough what a terrible idea that would be. Nothing would damage this game as much as moving item progression more towards a stereotypical linear power curve. Ditto for EGO rating.

    Trion Worlds, don't **** with the horizontal progression of the game; it's the best thing Defiance has going for it.

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    Oh look, a laundry list of promises that will never see the light of day. You fanboys just gobble it up. How can you people be so gullible? I like the premise of this game, and I like the show, but nothing done so far in this game's development has lead me to believe the rampant game breaking bugs and lack of content will be fixed soon enough to matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrenito View Post
    rampant game breaking bugs
    Game breaking bugs? If you could not enter in game, deleting characters, that's could be a game breaking bug. But you can play and complete all the content of the game, so no game breaking bug...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrenito View Post
    and lack of content
    New content release every Monday after the TV show. It's not enough for you? Take a break and come back in game when new content that will please you will be released
    The biggest problem in computers, and in MMOs: PEBKAC

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3dl4nce View Post
    But you can play and complete all the content of the game, so no game breaking bug...
    Uh, actually you can't.

    New content release every Monday after the TV show. It's not enough for you? Take a break and come back in game when new content that will please you will be released
    Adding a couple new Pursuits is good content to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remag Div View Post
    Uh, actually you can't.
    Missing only one rampage and a pvp map...
    Quote Originally Posted by Remag Div View Post
    Adding a couple new Pursuits is good content to you?
    It's new content. Play slowly and do the new pursuits while doing even other things in game, or rush through the new pursuits and then logout until next Monday, that doesn't change a bit.
    The biggest problem in computers, and in MMOs: PEBKAC

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3dl4nce View Post
    Game breaking bugs? If you could not enter in game, deleting characters, that's could be a game breaking bug. But you can play and complete all the content of the game, so no game breaking bug...
    Broken pursuits, vanishing items, character corruptions, disabled quests/maps left unfixed.... to name a few. Yes, you can log in and complete the story quests.

    Quote Originally Posted by r3dl4nce View Post
    New content release every Monday after the TV show. It's not enough for you? Take a break and come back in game when new content that will please you will be released
    1. Not every Monday, as confirmed by Sledgehammer. (we've already missed a week)
    2. Lighting candles is not "new content".

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