Originally Posted by DariusCalera
I would vote for the latter. During a blizzard here I was attempting to make it home from work and some crazy women was "jogging" (running suit and all) through it like nothing was happening... myself and another guy nearly hit her when she decided it would be a good time to J walk... then she flicked us off.
Yep people are morons. I giggled evilly during that scene thinking of blizzard jogger.
So my cloak shouldn't work? But it does... oh great the cloaking technique is poo!!! EW!!!!Hellbugs:
They can't hear and use scent to see
Oh another thing since things are getting thrown about in the dialogue that are actually here in STL....
The Irathians get "the lands to the west" which is west county (st louis) and the most prominent and expensive lands here. They border the real town of Defiance. I found that humourous since I work in West County.
"The Cedars" rehab is also in West Count (Exmayor was there) and New Town where she was going is in St Charles county.
I know I know they are probably just looking at a map or randomly saying shtako but it's coincidental that things they say are our everyday lives here and weird - yet cool.If it's all random I don't wanna know I just want to believe they are doing all this on purpose.
Seems we are slowly moving towards the consensus that hellbugs got ruined this episode and the computer issue bugged me too. Enough brilliant people around, but no computers. When they had that gate thingy in episode 2 that got blown up what was that control tower, if not a big computer, much like moderns ships and heck even bridges work that way.
Such complex devices exist but no room for desktops. I also see them use this pad to get information on items and we got an arkfall detecting gps system in our shabby car. All technology that came after the pc was thoroughly developed, but no PC's or desktops or useful tablets to store documents for you. The only tablets to exist will detect gulanite, scan your body to find which bones are broken and to communicate (occasionally) to far off locations, but it won't run word.
Just wait and see how the Stratocariers are flown. There is an orchestra conductor that signals all personal to press the right buttons and turn the right vent wheels and to motivate the gulanite shovel workers to shovel that gulanite into the coal steam power-plant... I meant gulanite power plant. You know, because there is no computer or such technology made anymore.
That EGO put in your blood stream, with that AI interface.... just a spooky drug that makes you hallucinate. AI's require programming and there aint no computers to program with, unless you got an Indogene sphere. Indogene spheres are the last known devices to run word.
Stopping with the ridicule, but things need to make sense. This falls into the same category as not having a real settlement or trading hub within the game. It is not logical. Maybe it is logic for crystal shaped aliens to form such communities, but the way the aliens and humans are and how the industry works (mining, farming etc.) This means that trading hubs are a must. Even Waterworld (1995) understood this.
It ticks me off if basic logic is ignored.
Things I liked most about this episode is that they are giving more depth to the characters. Nolan being a really caring father type, while still having this Indiana Jones cover. I do hope the Indiana Jones feel will wear off from him because it doesn't make for a good character in world that is harsh and unrelenting to many. The most interesting character by far is the male Irathient Sukar. I also liked the cowardice Alek showed a contrast to his father or his girlfriend. (I do hope that this will steer away from being too much like an alien "romeo and juliet").
Also I was impressed with this:
I am less impressed with what is shown in the TV show.The game trailers seemed to have achieved a higher finish/ polish where it comes to the CGI commercials.
Ugh Oz you are killing me... The Indian Jones thing is the best part of Nolan (hence my avatar).
Aside from the obvious unavoidable differences between game debut and the show (they will interact better I am sure) we do have to remember the Indogene are pretty much the Steve Jobs of the future - they handle the tech now.
Setting it only 30 years into the future is a curse at times and there will be YADI each episode - it is inevitable.
Indiana Jones links with comedy and I liked how BG was free from comedy in the sense there is a character that is always witty and ridiculous. This is what stargate ended up being. Jack making jokes, 1st it was sort of a natural growth in the end a bit annoying. Stargate Atlantis bit of a flop for me. Main hero had to be Jack, but in the end Rodney was the only fun thing to look forward to in that show for me. Stargate Universe I found quite brilliant... only issue with the show is to continue the stargate theme, some other tech around a similar story would have worked better. One of two series (as far as I am concerned) that should not have ended before its time.
I don't feel that an Indiana Jones figure will do justice to the lore world, hence the more in depth and caring nature is far more important than the gun slinging hero.
I might be a bit too harsh on the computer issue. At the start of defiance there could have been a lack of such technology, but I do hope that in its current state we will see these machines and technology and a digital archive for our miner.
in order to use a computer you both need A power and B a working one.
they are out on the frontier far from E-rep or the votan collective having a working computer is just not practice the power requirements alone would be stupid expensive to run. B someone would steal it C it would break pretty dam fast in that kind of environment.
I think a lot of you take the nature of electricity and power and the fact you have a computer for granted, go to any remote Africa countries and the only reason they have them IF IT ALL is because either china or wester nation gave them one to use.
post end of the world i doubt many people outside science and military would have one
A good way it was explained to me is, can you build a mouse...all of it... plastics and circuits beucase you some pretty hefty to gear to make any kind of plastic
As I think about it, it's clear that Defiance has computers, but they may be few in number and of Votan tech. IE, we see the doctor using computers at the battle against the volge, and when she's scanning the hell bug scent, and it's clear that at some level the shields at computers as well. Which were also Votan tech. I can see Earth Corp having computers before some miner. So it's not like there aren't ANY computers, they are just more rare than they are today and they are given to people who are in power or who need them the most.
Keeping the mine's payrolls intact seems less important then keeping the town's medical facility running, and keeping the shield's powered.
I love the fact it's funny and that Nolan has great lines, reminds me more of Firefly. I am not a avid Sci-Fi fan because they do end up being unfunny and boring. I like campy, comedy, and witty - if all done right. Nolan is a smartA and I love that about him.
Yet there is enough tech to have equipment to detect arkfalls. A GPS (sort of the opposite of it, far more advanced in the sense that from 1 point you can quite accurately track and predict the fall), something that can track and predict an Ark Fall is far more complex than a desktop or computer that processes text. If you just make a machine for text editing and storing you have a fairly simple machine.
Here is a link to an 8 bit computer made by a kid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYvr0...layer_embedded
I feel that the level of technology we found Defiance at in episode 1 doesn't justify the lack of such obvious machines. You think about computers in the way you look at them before you, but you get passed the idea what it takes to create machines today that did what computers were build for 50 yrs ago. You look at nothing. I am not asking for machines to play Defiance I am talking about machines to do text processing and that takes nothing at all to achieve if you understand it and there is no lack of knowledge.
The Indogene have implants that allow them to interact and control their machinery. Their USB port to their computers so it is understandable that for such Votan tech there is no access to other races or very limited access. Power is no issues for a town lighted and a town putting up an energy shield. They mine Gulanite which is very valuable, so valuable a town is created, they even got good farming grounds. They also seem to have several wind turbines to help with the power. Don't forget that simple generator working on petrohol (enough vehicles showing this principle) is enough to power far more demanding machinery.
I've got a 10yr old pocket calculator, which allows programming and text editing storing, this runs on a few batteries. Probably 1/2 the batteries and 10 times more options if I do buy one today. If it is a miss there is no reason to not have a computer. Simply our grumpy miner didn't care at all and paper work if there is no administration is the easy and lazy way out. It can make sense, but than the somewhere in the next few episodes there will be a computer.
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