What we learned Episode 3

[Maurer]

They really screwed up hellbugs. In the show, as you listed, they state they cannot hear when they are in the elevator. However, in the game, the psycho guy on Island of Lost Soldiers coop screaches to control and summon hellbugs.


Hmmm.....

From the Island of Lost Soldiers, I was always under the impression not only was Psycho Pete was a psychopath, but he was also telepathic (abandoned military research base back story, "Mommy tried to warn me.") He could be telepathically communicating with the hellbugs while screeching.

[Ozgwald]

Telepathic bugs now that isn't quite crazy, but that would make it quite easy for the Matron to stop the skitterlings from attacking her. Again angel island due to the experiments is hard to rely on as an example.

[Megaweapon]

Angel Island has the stench of the EMC all over it. Any hellbug intel learned there might only exist locally. I am hoping we will learn more.

[Necis Anima]

Yet there is enough tech to have equipment to detect arkfalls. A GPS (sort of the opposite of it, far more advanced in the sense that from 1 point you can quite accurately track and predict the fall), something that can track and predict an Ark Fall is far more complex than a desktop or computer that processes text. If you just make a machine for text editing and storing you have a fairly simple machine.

Here is a link to an 8 bit computer made by a kid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYvr0...layer_embedded

I feel that the level of technology we found Defiance at in episode 1 doesn't justify the lack of such obvious machines. You think about computers in the way you look at them before you, but you get passed the idea what it takes to create machines today that did what computers were build for 50 yrs ago. You look at nothing. I am not asking for machines to play Defiance I am talking about machines to do text processing and that takes nothing at all to achieve if you understand it and there is no lack of knowledge.

The Indogene have implants that allow them to interact and control their machinery. Their USB port to their computers so it is understandable that for such Votan tech there is no access to other races or very limited access. Power is no issues for a town lighted and a town putting up an energy shield. They mine Gulanite which is very valuable, so valuable a town is created, they even got good farming grounds. They also seem to have several wind turbines to help with the power. Don't forget that simple generator working on petrohol (enough vehicles showing this principle) is enough to power far more demanding machinery.

I've got a 10yr old pocket calculator, which allows programming and text editing storing, this runs on a few batteries. Probably 1/2 the batteries and 10 times more options if I do buy one today. If it is a miss there is no reason to not have a computer. Simply our grumpy miner didn't care at all and paper work if there is no administration is the easy and lazy way out. It can make sense, but than the somewhere in the next few episodes there will be a computer.

Its in a locked room and he has a necklace that turns it on....oops wrong show..There is no room for text doc only ****?

[Smitch]

They really screwed up hellbugs. In the show, as you listed, they state they cannot hear when they are in the elevator. However, in the game, the psycho guy on Island of Lost Soldiers coop screaches to control and summon hellbugs.

Could be particular resonant frequencies. Anything outside particular range and they can't sense it. (Same way we only see a *very* limited band of the light spectrum.)

[DariusCalera]

Yet there is enough tech to have equipment to detect arkfalls. A GPS (sort of the opposite of it, far more advanced in the sense that from 1 point you can quite accurately track and predict the fall), something that can track and predict an Ark Fall is far more complex than a desktop or computer that processes text. If you just make a machine for text editing and storing you have a fairly simple machine.

Here is a link to an 8 bit computer made by a kid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYvr0...layer_embedded

Could he have made that computer by scrounging around in a junkyard for parts? Which, basically, is what he would have had to do to build one from scratch in the Defiance time frame. It is highly doubtful that he would have had access to the chips and whatever else that he would need.

I feel that the level of technology we found Defiance at in episode 1 doesn't justify the lack of such obvious machines. You think about computers in the way you look at them before you, but you get passed the idea what it takes to create machines today that did what computers were build for 50 yrs ago. You look at nothing. I am not asking for machines to play Defiance I am talking about machines to do text processing and that takes nothing at all to achieve if you understand it and there is no lack of knowledge.

You need the resources to build those machines, especially in a town like Defiance which, apparently, relies on scavengers for most of the things like that. Once they got the parts, they would have to insure that they actually worked. All of this while trying to scrounge out a living in a frontier town. Any machines that they did manage to get would be put to use in the areas where they were needed most, like the hospital.

The Indogene have implants that allow them to interact and control their machinery. Their USB port to their computers so it is understandable that for such Votan tech there is no access to other races or very limited access. Power is no issues for a town lighted and a town putting up an energy shield. They mine Gulanite which is very valuable, so valuable a town is created, they even got good farming grounds. They also seem to have several wind turbines to help with the power. Don't forget that simple generator working on petrohol (enough vehicles showing this principle) is enough to power far more demanding machinery.

Well, power was an issue for the town which is why the shield only blocked that one way in. You would be surprised at how much electricity a town of roughly 6000 people consume daily and this is just for the basic necessities like lights. Start tossing in luxury items like computers, even simple ones, and you would see that sky rocket.

I've got a 10yr old pocket calculator, which allows programming and text editing storing, this runs on a few batteries. Probably 1/2 the batteries and 10 times more options if I do buy one today. If it is a miss there is no reason to not have a computer. Simply our grumpy miner didn't care at all and paper work if there is no administration is the easy and lazy way out. It can make sense, but than the somewhere in the next few episodes there will be a computer.

Say we went through an Arkfall event and you managed to hold onto that calculator but it broke. Could you fix it with spare parts? If you could, then awesome, but for most of humanity the answer would be no.

[deltadeath93]

you forgot that castians bath in groups and find it strange we humans bath alone

[JMadFour]

I don't think it is a matter of "no computers exist". but merely a matter of Rafe McCawley not having one.

he should probably fix that sooner, rather than later.

[Snowranger19]

Maybe there is no computers because there are scrappers near by

[Thunderclap]

Could he have made that computer by scrounging around in a junkyard for parts? Which, basically, is what he would have had to do to build one from scratch in the Defiance time frame. It is highly doubtful that he would have had access to the chips and whatever else that he would need.



You need the resources to build those machines, especially in a town like Defiance which, apparently, relies on scavengers for most of the things like that. Once they got the parts, they would have to insure that they actually worked. All of this while trying to scrounge out a living in a frontier town. Any machines that they did manage to get would be put to use in the areas where they were needed most, like the hospital.



Well, power was an issue for the town which is why the shield only blocked that one way in. You would be surprised at how much electricity a town of roughly 6000 people consume daily and this is just for the basic necessities like lights. Start tossing in luxury items like computers, even simple ones, and you would see that sky rocket.



Say we went through an Arkfall event and you managed to hold onto that calculator but it broke. Could you fix it with spare parts? If you could, then awesome, but for most of humanity the answer would be no.

Um, you are ignoring one small detail. St. Louis intact beneath him and mostly intact. He could have easily found a functional computer in one of the buildings. So while we could hand wave this away with magical logical explanations, I won't. It was again, bad writing. Computers are ubiquitous at this point. No reason why he shouldn't have had at least one.
There are computers and power sources in the arch and the Darby building. There are plenty of generators. And he mines the fuel source. I applaud you Oz. Its compelling for anyone else. Just not Rafe.