Refunding season pass?

[jnt]

Yeah that is what I am definitely hoping for. It would be completely dumb to say in the lightest way for any company to charge 40 dollars for a SP and then to give 95% of the important content away for free. Plus I can't see stuff like new dungeons being able to be done by people with out the proper gear and having that gear drop from arkfalls alone. Most likely that idea is correct and then I will definitely get my sp but I have the sinking feeling that I should just hold out a bit until then.

Are you saying the DLC should gate content with gear?

[jnt]

that's exactly how I envisioned it, very similar to the LotRO model.

Opening the areas for free but leaving the content inaccessible without paying just seems like cruel marketing.

How funny would it be to see quest symbols that just tell you to buy the dlc when you click all over the place? or vendors that grey out super good loot and tell you that you have to buy the dlc to use them? hah

[baelrusk]

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Trion has posted details on a season pass for Defiance, its MMO-meets-a-TV-show project in conjunction with SyFy. The season pass will cost players $39.99 and enable access to the game's first five DLC packs, which will include a new playable alien species, along with lots of new weapons, vehicles, missions, and other rewards. Plus, pass buyers get two bonus items: a digital Hellbug combat cap, and an extra Lock Box (which is a sealed container in the game for a chance at another item).

Ah....but how many and in which ones.....
That's the thing. With the specifics given it could be 1 or 2 new weapons in total, 1 new playable race, etc...
They've made enough mistakes already to lose credibility that they really should release more info.
Probably gonna end up being 'Playable Race DLC', then the '2 New Weapon DLC', 'Vehicle/Mission DLC A', and 'Vehicle/Mission DLC B'. In the end, it'll probably be something where only 1 or 2 of those will actually interest people if they're still here.

[Runebane]

5 DLC packs really shouldn't be $50 end of story. Maybe $30 max. Even more so when it can't be told what is even IN them.

What other MMO games are you playing that have DLC packs for less than $10 each? And the fact that we don't know exactly what is in them means we can't say for sure they are not worth $10 each.

I haven't bought the season pass yet either. I don't know if it will be a good deal for me or not. I am undecided. But its just silly to go and voluntarily buy something before its released when you don't even know what it will contain... then complain about how you are being cheated, and again before you even know what you are getting.

[KOLZ]

Are you saying the DLC should gate content with gear?

Not sure what you mean, lol. Sorry.

What other MMO games are you playing that have DLC packs for less than $10 each? And the fact that we don't know exactly what is in them means we can't say for sure they are not worth $10 each.

I haven't bought the season pass yet either. I don't know if it will be a good deal for me or not. I am undecided. But its just silly to go and voluntarily buy something before its released when you don't even know what it will contain... then complain about how you are being cheated, and again before you even know what you are getting.

So then what are you gonna do with that idea? Wait until content number 5 comes out and then go complain on the forums how the "game is dead" because no one is doing stuff from the previous 4 contents? LOL..

[jnt]

Not sure what you mean, lol. Sorry.

You said you can't see new dungeons being done by people without the proper gear. Defiance doesn't work that way. The supporters of horizontal progression go on and on about how "gating" content with gear is evil, etc.

According to Trion, they have no intention of letting gear provide the devil's power creep.

[baelrusk]

What other MMO games are you playing that have DLC packs for less than $10 each? And the fact that we don't know exactly what is in them means we can't say for sure they are not worth $10 each.

I haven't bought the season pass yet either. I don't know if it will be a good deal for me or not. I am undecided. But its just silly to go and voluntarily buy something before its released when you don't even know what it will contain... then complain about how you are being cheated, and again before you even know what you are getting.

Well I could see that kind of money being spent on an actual expansion, but not a DLC.

[Mutated Spleen]

My guess is this:

DLC pack #1 gives you access to some island, a new large section of map.

Free: You can go there and kill stuff, get loot, etc.

Paid: You can go there, kill stuff, get loot, do missions, have races, challenges, story missions, etc.

[KOLZ]

You said you can't see new dungeons being done by people without the proper gear. Defiance doesn't work that way. The supporters of horizontal progression go on and on about how "gating" content with gear is evil, etc.

According to Trion, they have no intention of letting gear provide the devil's power creep.

Ah..trying to make things even more dumbed down than wow.. So does that mean I can go kill the final boss with my started gun because earning gear is "evil"? lol. I know the garbage casuals don't like doing crazy things like earning stuff but I still can't see a new dungeon being able to be done with any kind of gear.

[Runebane]

So then what are you gonna do with that idea? Wait until content number 5 comes out and then go complain on the forums how the "game is dead" because no one is doing stuff from the previous 4 contents? LOL..

Only time I ever complained about a game being dead was DCUO before their megaserver. And that was because I went 8 hours in game without seeing another player or chat message. I just don't see that happening here. Even with Defiance's funky chat interface I still see more messages than that and other players all over the place.

No, I said I didn't know if it was a good deal for me because I am also interested in another game that just came out. I am playing both for now. But I see no reason to invest too heavily in this one when I am on the fence for both. If I was only playing Defiance I would have already have bought it.