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    F2P is just a bad business model for the vast majority of games for the simple reason that the business model directly impacts the game design and development, even for AAA games (Neverwinter is a great example of this). Subs for MMOs aren't going anywhere, but will remain niche. B2P is where it's at. Box sales and DLC pay the cost of development and the cash shop pays the cost of ongoing maintenance and support, both with some profit mixed in, of course.

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    wow some good opinions, i didnt think about the amount of hackers it might bring in.
    im just worried that if the dlc turns out to b another 2 days of content lots of players might leave and never come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defy View Post
    completely f2p games usually arent that great
    not unless they have massive support backing them. Planetside 2 and Dust514 I'd put on the upper end for sure. Firefall, unfinished but ok. The rest...they just lack a lot of substance
    Your Challenger won't drive? You're probably in the passenger seat.
    Can't sell/delete an item? Check all of your loadouts, it's likely still equipped.
    Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
    Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobinsen View Post
    wow some good opinions, i didnt think about the amount of hackers it might bring in.
    im just worried that if the dlc turns out to b another 2 days of content lots of players might leave and never come back.
    They've already teased the DLC and future updates in commercials for the game (and possibly the show). Looks like continuing story missions and maps (and a maybe weapon testing room at some point)

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    If/when this game goes F2P. I am out. B2P games have SOME sense of community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobinsen View Post
    wow some good opinions, i didnt think about the amount of hackers it might bring in.
    im just worried that if the dlc turns out to b another 2 days of content lots of players might leave and never come back.
    if they don't, they're wasting their initial purchase, since they're just not taking advantage of free content. the $60 you paid isn't for the content you have, it's for what you have today, and get next month, and the next month.
    Your Challenger won't drive? You're probably in the passenger seat.
    Can't sell/delete an item? Check all of your loadouts, it's likely still equipped.
    Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
    Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironhands View Post
    not unless they have massive support backing them. Planetside 2 and Dust514 I'd put on the upper end for sure. Firefall, unfinished but ok. The rest...they just lack a lot of substance
    Firefall has a great development team. If they were any more involved with their community, you'd question if they were getting any work done. That said, I have my doubts about the direction of the game in general. It is starting to feel somewhat restrictive and less fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    Firefall has a great development team. If they were any more involved with their community, you'd question if they were getting any work done. That said, I have my doubts about the direction of the game in general. It is starting to feel somewhat restrictive and less fun.
    Yes, they certainly do but the game is definitely unfinished, and won't be for a long time. Didn't they just scrub the entire xp / leveling system a month ago?
    Your Challenger won't drive? You're probably in the passenger seat.
    Can't sell/delete an item? Check all of your loadouts, it's likely still equipped.
    Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
    Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.

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