Trion needs to do somthing quick or there hardcore players are leaving,

[Chilmeister]

Its a shame theres more activity these days on the forums than in the actual game

[Archeus9]

Its a shame theres more activity these days on the forums than in the actual game

Its a shame that the forums are currently more fun/or entertaining than the actual game (after nim of course, not before, before was fun).

[QuikFoX3a]

are you serious? this is not classical MMORPG you are calling TPS GRIND???? wtf are you serious? so COD or BF3 is grind too? or ME3? really? you are noob troll and you are trolling in every ****ing post on this forum. If you dont like tis game dont play it omg... EVERY MMO is repetetive, every MMO has bugs, every MMO need more time to content. and NO people are not leaving omg... there is many many mirrors on server and many people on each mirror. ON PC EU server. Every week people are coming back after show to make new pursuits and do daily/weekly contracts. this game is not about grind fest.... do you want grind fest? go play GW2 and try to make legendary weapon the most boring thing in GW. this game is about fun from shooting things and RELAX

Funny thing is, the games you mentioned (Battlefield 3, Call of Duty and Mass Effect 3) are all generally "fun" to a majority of people whom play them still. They (the games you mentioned) also provided exactly what they needed to keep people playing and addicted to them at launch while Defiance however not so much.

Yes, many of the online games now-a-days are all grinds in their own way. The trick here however is to deceive the player to "The Grind" by making it not feel as though you are grinding when playing it, by generally making the game fun with different things to do and or engaging their interests within the game itself.

Once you hit that "Grind" feeling it only goes down hill from there and generally your interest in the game will fall off into nothingness, you will stop caring and stop playing. This leads to the Dev losing whatever money they could have milked off you by keeping your interest to keep playing.

[Gabbro1000]

Its a shame theres more activity these days on the forums than in the actual game

The off-topic section is sometimes quite amusing!

Can't believe how popular this thread is! I'm only still playing defiance because I have no other games worth playing. If I did, this game would be in the box collecting dust till some dlc came out. I've achieved pretty much everything I want to do, now just the grind pursuits. 5000 sniper kills, lvl 10 semi-auto... I hate sniping, I'm just plain awful at it.

Nothing else to do... so just plod on!