Trion needs to do somthing quick or there hardcore players are leaving,

[Schwa]

star wars galaxies, pre-cu... and we loved the hell out of that one.

oh, wait, it shipped with far less content (ie- unpopulated worlds) than defiance did. we still loved the hell out of it.

The difference is the developers gave players the power to create their own content in SWG. We don't even have functional chat here, let alone the power to build our own cities.

[Rasczak]

The difference is the developers gave players the power to create their own content in SWG. We don't even have functional chat here, let alone the power to build our own cities.

Very true!

I never even bothered to play that one, it looked terrible. It really shipped with less then 15-20 hours of mission content? Crazy.

Yes. It launched in June 2003, which was 17 months before World of Warcraft hit the market (November 2004). The biggest thing WoW did, for good or bad (opinions vary) was make the railroad MMO themepark design so central to MMO development. You didn't see a lot of that before WoW.

[Omnifarious Xji]

are you serious? this is not classical MMORPG you are calling TPS GRIND???? wtf are you serious? so COD or BF3 is grind too? or ME3? really? you are noob troll and you are trolling in every ****ing post on this forum. If you dont like tis game dont play it omg... EVERY MMO is repetetive, every MMO has bugs, every MMO need more time to content. and NO people are not leaving omg... there is many many mirrors on server and many people on each mirror. ON PC EU server. Every week people are coming back after show to make new pursuits and do daily/weekly contracts. this game is not about grind fest.... do you want grind fest? go play GW2 and try to make legendary weapon the most boring thing in GW. this game is about fun from shooting things and RELAX

BF3? 100k star rank, nuff said. ME3? It takes at least 600 hours of play to get a maxed manifest. I quit playing at 1,400 hours, didn't even have half my Ultra rare manifest unlocked by then, an entire year of grinding out a simplistic horde mode clamoring for that next lvl of some ****ty gun I probably would never use.

[Vostler]

are you serious? this is not classical MMORPG you are calling TPS GRIND???? wtf are you serious? so COD or BF3 is grind too? or ME3? really? you are noob troll and you are trolling in every ****ing post on this forum. If you dont like tis game dont play it omg... EVERY MMO is repetetive, every MMO has bugs, every MMO need more time to content. and NO people are not leaving omg... there is many many mirrors on server and many people on each mirror. ON PC EU server. Every week people are coming back after show to make new pursuits and do daily/weekly contracts. this game is not about grind fest.... do you want grind fest? go play GW2 and try to make legendary weapon the most boring thing in GW. this game is about fun from shooting things and RELAX

I totally agree here

[Sarin]

If you've hit 2k+ ego, then there's a very high chance you've either quit or are seriously considering quitting. The game's a korean grinding MMO after 1500+.

If you're at 5k ego, and you got that legitimately, you are certifiably insane.

Yup, this^

Been busy with work so haven't had too much time to game but I think I've just hit ~1200EGO, already feels like I'm being forced to grind boring things for levels, I seriously have no care about hunting for data recorders, I'm just not that kinda gal.... it's tedious and a bit of a kick in the balls to say "you will never have max level unless you do an easter egg hunt(see: looking at walkthroughs on google)".

Sigh, at least freight yard is in now I guess..

[cypheon]

I never even bothered to play that one, it looked terrible. It really shipped with less then 15-20 hours of mission content? Crazy.

other than a handful of tutorial style quests it didn't have quests on ship day. you just had to go out hunting for stuff. of which, 90% of each planets surface... didn't have any stuff to it. the stuff that was there, wasn't static spawns... so you had to run all over each world hunting. think it only took 3'ish months to release a patch that populated the worlds and boosted the mission terminals (note: not quests, missions, like "go destroy this nest of critters" )

[BrassRazoo]

Sigh, at least freight yard is in now I guess..

Lies! I tell you.

[jnt]

other than a handful of tutorial style quests it didn't have quests on ship day. you just had to go out hunting for stuff. of which, 90% of each planets surface... didn't have any stuff to it. the stuff that was there, wasn't static spawns... so you had to run all over each world hunting. think it only took 3'ish months to release a patch that populated the worlds and boosted the mission terminals (note: not quests, missions, like "go destroy this nest of critters" )

Never actually been glad that I was playing EQ back then before. Thanks for that.

[Vostler]

I personally think most of you trolls are total idiots who know nothing about modern technology and how much actual physical work it takes to repair damaged code. I have friends who work as military contractors on our cyber defense systems. They will tell you that the smallest bugs can take the longest time to fix simply because of the impossibly large layers of code that can exist in some of the simplest programs let alone a large MMO like defiance. This game in the first two weeks has been one of the funnest games I have played all year round. Even though I have experienced my fair share of bugs I understand that there is a very limited community of developers working on this project who are more then likely staying at the office tonight to fix a game that you all want to ***** about, but give no consideration about what we already have as a gaming community. Most of you might not remember but the first three months of WoW there was constant bugs and treats that the game might be pulled entirely because of how piss poor the community support was. And we were all paying for that crap. Waiting a few months for bugs to come in line for a free game is nothing. So my advice, cool it or learn some facts about what your *****ing about.

[jnt]

I personally think most of you trolls are total idiots who know nothing about modern technology and how much actual physical work it takes to repair damaged code. I have friends who work as military contractors on our cyber defense systems. They will tell you that the smallest bugs can take the longest time to fix simply because of the impossibly large layers of code that can exist in some of the simplest programs let alone a large MMO like defiance. This game in the first two weeks has been one of the funnest games I have played all year round. Even though I have experienced my fair share of bugs I understand that there is a very limited community of developers working on this project who are more then likely staying at the office tonight to fix a game that you all want to ***** about, but give no consideration about what we already have as a gaming community. Most of you might not remember but the first three months of WoW there was constant bugs and treats that the game might be pulled entirely because of how piss poor the community support was. And we were all paying for that crap. Waiting a few months for bugs to come in line for a free game is nothing. So my advice, cool it or learn some facts about what your *****ing about.

All I got out of that is you're angry and you think Defiance is a free game.