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    Most people who bought it on steam like myself dont use steam to play it as the pre download wasnt available until the day it was released but you could download it on the trion website a week before release so most people did that. Also they just released a report that they have 1million accounts made which aslong as that doesnt include account you can just randomnly make and not codes needed from purchasing the game thats interesting amount of money but thinking about it that probably includes the weired way consoles work for this game and all the trade ins so its an inflated number anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatoldguy View Post
    The one million number is NOT people playing, it is accounts, you do not even have to own the game to have an account, just sign up for one.
    Let's not forget alpha/beta testers needed accounts, too. Whee.

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    Steam was one of the latest appearing resellers - when Steam announced they were about to sell Defiance most people already pre-ordered it.

    Also it was more than twice as expensive then other resellers (the cheapest pre-release offer was about 22€ for the standard edition).


    So, judging the state of the game on Steam numbers should only list you hardcore Steam fanboys.

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    People surprised this game is already on life support? Massive performance issues, extreme lack of content, bugs/glitches galore, the game/tv tie content failure + mediocre sales = recipe for disaster.

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    Im getting fed up with people whining and slandering this game.

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    Are you REALLY surprised? This game has had ATROCIOUS connection issues. Trion managed to throw coffee into their servers not once, but TWICE the other day, causing two two hour down periods within an hour of each other. Then again today for another two hours while they fix their patch that, ONCE AGAIN, broke more than it fixed.

    After completing everything (and with the fluffed up content, it REALLY isnt hard to finish things quickly, you only have main quest, side missions that are pointless, races, rampages, etc.) you get left with a sense of 'what now? boost my EGO skill so i can get one more useless perk and my gun has '5000' instead of '2000' in a corner. Side missions that give you gear that you throw away because its worthless, money and salvage thats worthless because everything in the store is a carbon copy of what you have and modding a gun to give you .05% damage resistance after a full reload for 1 second isnt even worth the effort of opening the menu.

    I wouldnt be surprised if in total, over ALL platforms, Defiance didnt peak over 10k players today. and total players today? Id guess maybe 20-30k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptonius View Post
    Im getting fed up with people whining and slandering this game.
    slan·der
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    The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

    li·bel
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    A published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neptonius View Post
    Im getting fed up with people whining and slandering this game.
    Im getting worried, if the games dead should I stop playing?
    PC EU / Redd 2600 Ego
    Xbox / GT Jackobite 627 Ego

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackobite View Post
    Im getting worried, if the games dead should I stop playing?
    Game is not dead, now **** Troll!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redman20 View Post
    Are you REALLY surprised? This game has had ATROCIOUS connection issues. Trion managed to throw coffee into their servers not once, but TWICE the other day, causing two two hour down periods within an hour of each other. Then again today for another two hours while they fix their patch that, ONCE AGAIN, broke more than it fixed.

    After completing everything you get left with a sense of 'what now? boost my EGO skill so i can get one more useless perk and my gun has '5000' instead of '2000' in a corner. Side missions that give you gear that you throw away because its worthless, money and salvage thats worthless because everything in the store is a carbon copy of what you have and modding a gun to give you .05% damage resistance after a full reload for 1 second isnt even worth the effort of opening the menu.

    I wouldnt be surprised if in total, over ALL platforms, Defiance didnt peak over 10k players today. and total players today? Id guess maybe 20-30k
    Please, this game has had GREAT connection for a New MMO. WoW had such atrocious connection issues it was barely playable for the first 3 or 4 months. Hell, the connection issues would actually kill characters. At least Trion's issues were pretty much confined to the first couple of weeks of launch. Since then the downtimes have mostly been planned and centered around some kind of software update (some Server side only, others both server and client).

    EVERY MMO has problems at launch. There hasn't been a single title that wasn't at least slightly borked for the first few months.

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