hmm yes they can compare them if they want but at the end of the day borderlands was bland boring over in 8 hours MAX and lft a salty taste in my mouth(ALL PERSONAL OPINION)
hmm yes they can compare them if they want but at the end of the day borderlands was bland boring over in 8 hours MAX and lft a salty taste in my mouth(ALL PERSONAL OPINION)
To sum this argument up... my borderlands 2 character is level 999 with black tier weapons all stats maxed out bank increased to over 3000 and unlimited ammo pool... now compare defiance to borderlands 2 on it the god oh mighty. not having issues.
Bonus fact: I can still login to my character and guess what. I have unlimited golden keys too!~ wait omg hacks hacks hacks... no.. its called modding character profile and getting away with it because they dont have anything against it. (:
oh and my black tier weapons 1shot the last boss 10x over.. have a nice day (:
And yet BL2 is ten times the game this will ever be, sad huh?Originally Posted by FrostEffect
Not really. They both have a basic storyline; bl2 pumps out more dlcs, both have their bugs and both tend to bore the **** outa me time to time. The reason i stopped playing bl2 was because everyone wanted me to mod their **** and give them legendaries. one thing defiance has that bl2 doesnt. their weapon damage and modds are all server sided and actually smarter then bl2 because of this. lolol.
the reason this mmo doesnt allow u to fully custom ur stats is because of **** like other mmos needing specific character classes to do a raids and ****. (90% of the avg mmo player wants to play a dps character or a tank) what abt the support players ALWAYS needed just to raid. this game may not have raids yet but in do time it will and heres the thing. perks allow you to be any fcn class you want and be able to switch between to fit the crisis and advert it.
players need to stop bit*hing about what they don't know and do a little more research on Defiance in general.
More research? How? look up Flagship games to see where this is going?
I'm stuck on black ops 2. defiance is just a clan based game to me for events. Its about as demanding as MAG and look where that went. lolol. My local gamestop gets more returns on games like farcry3, injustice, res evil, tombraider, then it does defiance. lol. either way everyone has their opinions. respect them for what they are. Borderlands 2 went as far as a 4 person competitive game where friends would ***** abt who got to keep what weapon and it resulted in a failed season pass itself.
Hello there!!
Above is the biggest misconception with this game. Your happy to not have classes in Defiance, but you want a half-azz option to kinda be a certain class, am i right? There are no tanks in Defiance, there are no support classes in Defiance, there no rearranging perk to be a support class, wait...as a matter of fact, cant everyone rez???
Anyway, I wish i could believe your 90% story, but i cant, the only class you can actually do without is dps.
See, i came from a MMORPG myself, and ive seen dungeons cleared with a group full of Tank, Off-Tank, and Healers! DPS only speeds up the progress, but isnt entirely needed Per Se.
I understand where you was going, but the route you took was a bit off. This game could do well with specific classes. It doesnt have to be the same way most other MMORPG's implement it, but you should never be proud to have a lesser product just because it isnt like the normal MMORPG.
As far as raids are concerned, well, what kind of raid do you want? So far everything Defiance is, is borrowed from the mmorpg class. Questng in a open world, with world bosses, and instances remind you of anything?
Please, lets not be too hasty here, i realize its a shooter, but under a microscope, isnt this really just a even lesser version of the almight mmorpg style you hate so much?
Careful, you might loose this fight, Anne Frankly why does everybody have to bring up the Nazis?
As quoted by Justin CarMicheal
That's the thing-- they have the right philosophy, but they implemented it so poorly players can't see it. So they ask for other genres to get copy/pasted over.
As quoted by Schwa
You picked and chose what to interpret on what I said. I've enjoyed Defiance since day one it was released and I back the developers up on each case. They are in fact unorganized, but they do try. It is there first console game and like most newcomers, things tend to fail on and off. I understand how mmorpgs work the difference between most and defiance is the fact you aren't having to pay to win. there are no subscriptions and its open to whatever you wish it to be. Every mmo i've played falls under the tank/dps cat.
Defiance/trion decided not to go this route which I like. I'm not a fan of the class based games because of the fact you need certain classes just to stand a chance against a raid/mob/npc group. Everyone in Defiance can revive and self revive. that is what sets the two apart. I'm simply tired of people giving defiance hell just because they aren't as eye-appealing as borderland 2s content.
The statement made about borrowing ideas will only grow with the upcomming game generation but you can't limit that to 1 game in particular as they borrowed it from another; however, they may have implemented it better. World of Warcraft wasn't the first; everyone seems to think of it like that. They simply done it best on the class bases. Every thread I've come across on Defiance forums simply wants a World of Warcraft game on console.
I don't see the point on judging one game to another to begin with.
SOmetimes trying isnt enough in the gaming industry. Too many game released over the past 20yrs, way to many to count, but the biggest thing that upsets me with Defiance, or Trion for that matter, is was almost like they did absolutely no research to see what would work against what doesnt work well.
Theres nothing wrong with doing whats been done before, incorporate it into your lore, and extend the replay value, what they did what the exact opposite. They assume mindless pursuit grinds would hold the peole over till the next dlc, and that was a bad idea. Of course, hindsight is 20/20, but i cant think of one single mmo that focuses on the continuous grind of open world mobs!
Careful, you might loose this fight, Anne Frankly why does everybody have to bring up the Nazis?
As quoted by Justin CarMicheal
That's the thing-- they have the right philosophy, but they implemented it so poorly players can't see it. So they ask for other genres to get copy/pasted over.
As quoted by Schwa
Perfect World International
Grinding Instances - selling them - buying them (level up to pvp)
Cash shop for pvp gear
tbh anything under the title of Perfect World Inc.
even the new neverwinter or whatever its called.
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