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    Maybe it's just a game... "let's see if the community can find everything we left out of the patch notes.". I wonder what the prize will be!

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    With a sensible head on i think maybe these stealth nerfs may have slipped in by accident and weren't supposed to be in yet.

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    So they didn't put up the undocumented changes. MMO has been doing this for years. Nothing new, i will say this. It's about damn time they did something to try and get people to start using other weapons in PVP. Thank you TRION.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalmephisto View Post
    So they didn't put up the undocumented changes. MMO has been doing this for years. Nothing new, i will say this. It's about damn time they did something to try and get people to start using other weapons in PVP. Thank you TRION.
    The issue is that Sledge stated that Trion does not ninja any changes. I don't mind Trion making changes to the game but I do mind being lied to, particularly because of the vehicle change.

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    Great. More Stealth patch that makes game more ****tier.
    I've lost all my faith in Trion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalmephisto View Post
    So they didn't put up the undocumented changes. MMO has been doing this for years. Nothing new, i will say this. It's about damn time they did something to try and get people to start using other weapons in PVP. Thank you TRION.
    I agree that shotguns are overused in PvP, but this isn't the best way to handle it. I doubt it will make any change at all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiero Glyph View Post
    The issue is that Sledge stated that Trion does not ninja any changes. I don't mind Trion making changes to the game but I do mind being lied to, particularly because of the vehicle change.
    Lowering down the magazine size for Shutguns isn't a really big nerf. Nerfing the damage would count but not magazine size. So what you have to reload more often. Come on now really? Don't be so damn lazy.

    I will say this, if thats what the nerf is. If its not damage related, its not a nerf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalmephisto View Post
    Lowering down the magazine size for Shutguns isn't a really big nerf. Nerfing the damage would count but not magazine size. So what you have to reload more often. Come on now really? Don't be so damn lazy.

    I will say this, if thats what the nerf is. If its not damage related, its not a nerf.
    Limit cloak ability+ ego cloak damage modifiers and we may see a slight improvement, shotguns themselves aren't the big issue i think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalmephisto View Post
    Lowering down the magazine size for Shutguns isn't a really big nerf. Nerfing the damage would count but not magazine size. So what you have to reload more often. Come on now really? Don't be so damn lazy.

    I will say this, if thats what the nerf is. If its not damage related, its not a nerf.
    Normally I would agree with you, but the way that the mag stats are post-patch leaves many guns with useless bonus abilities, as an extra 5% mag size does not even amount to a single extra shell.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IntenseSpirit View Post
    Normally I would agree with you, but the way that the mag stats are post-patch leaves many guns with useless bonus abilities, as an extra 5% mag size does not even amount to an extra shell in the mag.
    is that also effect as well outside PVP?

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