Calling 'bullshot' on false game advertising

[Orge Lambart]

every game now some neanderthal comes out of the woodwork and screams to the heavens about sueing the company for false advertisement. I'd love to see someone actually do this, not because I think they'd win but because the resulting youtube video of the fat gamer getting owned in court would become legendary.

[Ozzalin]

just number 3 is really the only thing game/tv show cross over. but there is a type of cross over that us gamers don't like

the Cerberus is crappy anyways, more pissed about the dirt bikes

there millions of guns just like borderlands there 14 of them but all the same stats (only thing change is ego level)

were all playing in the same world except ps3 unless they finally got the nerf patch where on different shards/phases inside of the shard
where they say it cross platform play?
weather systems would melt the xbox/ps3

100% true.
And this is precisely and legally called, False Advertising made for tons of players to rush on pre-orders.
Gearbox-Sega did the same exact thing with Colonial Marines, and now facing a full action class lawsuit by the Consumers/Players.

[DaMaJaDiZ]

To be fair, the TV show doesn't look anywhere near as put together as advertised either. The town of Defiance looked more like a small progressive city then that shanty town they have now. It's like they rolled back the reconstruction efforts across both projects, and instead of a world of interwoven cultures, we get that budgeted wild west look instead.

[Orge Lambart]

Then as a business owner in publishing (including table top RPGs), and with international retail distribution and marketing, let me explain something to you: the industry is inhospitable to companies and small publishers who cannot, or simply do not, deliver on features that are advertised. If said feature is not done and ready to go, simply do not advertise it. Period. Same goes for our RPGs, whether through YouTube, Twitch, or Kickstarter video marketing. We do not reveal anything about the game that has not been developed, tested, approved, and which we know is going to be in the final version of the book.

And you know what? In my 10 years in that industry, I have never, not once, had a single customer, fan, or reviewer (even on the occasional bad reviews, as sometimes happens), accuse my company of not bringing to market the features we advertised.

Big, small, or in-between; video game, roleplaying game, collectible card game; the developers/manufacturers should be held accountable for providing every feature they advertise. If they don't, then any inhospitable environment that plagues them is of their own doing.

Successful law suits against Sega/Geabox or any other company does not make the industry inhospitable to indie and small developers. It simply sends the message of: the Consumer Protection Laws concerning advertising do apply to you as well.

Apparently you've never heard of Peter Molynexux (sp) the guy behind the fable series. He made it his life time goal to tout features which didn't exist and never would exist in the games. The first fable was notorious for promised features that were just flat out not included in the finished game. So many lies that ultimately Fable: The Lost Chapters was released.

[A s0t]

i asked sledgehammer70 for a ps3 beta code back in the day had i not played that i wouldn't have upgraded to the gamestop edition on the xbox. we all remember how crappy the first day beta was. they making the game better except for the nerfs

[ThanatosPa]

OK so for me the HUGE issue is the removal of the episode missions. And the pursuits DONT COUNT.
We were supposed to have weekly missions that would have in show impact(the glowing crystal in Ep.1)
They yanked the missions with no info as to what was up and added the pursuits as a crappy substitute.

That being said a law suit is not going to fix this. So far I have gotten at least as much play time out of the game as any other. So I will jump in and out of the game untill more stuff is added/fixed.

[DaMaJaDiZ]

lol, it would be funny to see someone try to do a class action lawsuit... just because the resulting youtube video of the fat gamer totally getting owned in court would be priceless.

Not really up on how these things work, are we?

[MaSh_MaN94]

i asked sledgehammer70 for a ps3 beta code back in the day had i not played that i wouldn't have upgraded to the gamestop edition on the xbox. we all remember how crappy the first day beta was. they making the game better except for the nerfs

Please,explain how trion are making the game better? It seems to me they're breaking it.

[A s0t]

100% true.
And this is precisely and legally called, False Advertising made for tons of players to rush on pre-orders.
Gearbox-Sega did the same exact thing with Colonial Marines, and now facing a full action class lawsuit by the Consumers/Players.

did you get to play ACM it was completely horrible.
some things in defiance the console can't handle
just as long as there making it better they can take there sweet time
you can choose not to play if you don't want to. they did make campaign replayable

[A s0t]

Please,explain how trion are making the game better? It seems to me they're breaking it.

less server crashes, counters working this is improvements there adding episode to the pursuits
they should have not nerfed the guns for pve but only for pvp
i'll back them up and ill give them hell at the same time
and other than counter resets, horrible time with lock boxes oranges i haven't had that many issues bugs and crap.