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    Quote Originally Posted by MaSh_MaN94 View Post
    Now this is something i don't agree with. we don't need this game getting any easier than it already is.
    actually i want less of a grind
    worker bees can leave
    even drones can fly away
    the queen is their slave--Fight Club

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    Since Defiance is a TPS, not an MMO, I don't expect much progression.

    Naturally, cosmetics, titles, convenience etc. can progress, but weapons/gear/perks should not become essential in gameplay. That's what MMOs are for.

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    Throwing away your guns after leveling them so you can continue to gain skill proficiency. Purple and blue guns being at or weaker than green guns. Blue and purple guns coming with 1 or 2 mod slots and only 1 bonus ability. Synergy mods not even being in game or only obtainable through a long rep RNG grind or a key RNG grind. Guns getting synergies that do not benefit them, gun getting stats that do not benefit them. Oh, you were asking how I defined it? thought you were asking about how Trion defines it, oops.

    Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?
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    what rng grind what does rng stand for
    worker bees can leave
    even drones can fly away
    the queen is their slave--Fight Club

    Joshua: A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

    http://www.etaew.net/defiance/
    http://www.defiance.com/en/game/?CAS...oMEGHvtLge-cas

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    Here is the progression system in Defiance.
    Step 1 buy game
    Step 2 grind through few hundred hours
    Step 3 realize the grind is the game
    Step 4 pray for dlc
    Step 5 give up and move onto a game you'll be happy with
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    Quote Originally Posted by A s0t View Post
    what rng grind what does rng stand for
    Random number generator. Lockboxes are RNG (it warms the cockles of my heart to see real money spent on RNG). Mod caches at regular vendors are RNG that looks more like "here's some brutal mods" Mod caches at rep vendors require a rep grind and then depend on RNG to get something that most of the time won't match your guns or guns the rep vendor even sells.

    Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antimony View Post
    Since Defiance is a TPS, not an MMO, I don't expect much progression.

    Only half right. Defiance is an MMO. What it is not is an RPG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Valethar View Post
    Only half right. Defiance is an MMO. What it is not is an RPG.
    Yeah, practically everything online is an MMO, if you go by the strict definition.
    I meant MMORPG, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch View Post
    Random number generator. Lockboxes are RNG (it warms the cockles of my heart to see real money spent on RNG). Mod caches at regular vendors are RNG that looks more like "here's some brutal mods" Mod caches at rep vendors require a rep grind and then depend on RNG to get something that most of the time won't match your guns or guns the rep vendor even sells.
    thank you, good sir
    worker bees can leave
    even drones can fly away
    the queen is their slave--Fight Club

    Joshua: A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

    http://www.etaew.net/defiance/
    http://www.defiance.com/en/game/?CAS...oMEGHvtLge-cas

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