OMG!! Just balance Weapon in PVP already !!

[ArcTJ]

I'm sick of the lack of weapon variety in pvp.

Don't get me wrong I love PVP (I came from BF3, Warface, Dust514, Blacklight Retribution)

I wanted to play the pvp shooter games with RPG elements. And yes ! this one attracted me. I was grinding a bit til I get good gears to counter with other players. I was having fun pvping for couple days from launch

BUT

- WTH pvp length is so short especially on waterfront. I go pee in toilet and the game ends
- 2 Maps !!? and shadow war which take forever to matchmaking ? (Asia)
- What most frustrate me... The lack of weapon variety and not a single dev balance it..

devs are slow. They see a lot of people complaining in the same way and many times. They just ignore. I expected the balancing patch since 1.010 patch. And nothing happened. Shotguns are way too powerful with cloak enabled. Infectors are too much powerful for ranged. And very hard to counter because infectors they block my view so I cat shoot back properly with the big infected on my body.

2 Things just only 2

- Shotguns + Cloak
- Infectors

AR sucks
SMG sucks when fighting with shot gun in short to mid range
LMG pretty good damage but bad accuracy
RL Never use but seems balance to me

[vagrant1]

They need to take ego powers out of pvp entirely.... so tired of running into nothing but teams of players running around cloaked and then you just get decimated when 4 people just appear out of nowhere and blast you point blank with shotguns....

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balance Weapon for PVP no way - u *** op the PvE of the game becors of pvp - is all ways like thes -- pvp cry and game get NEFFFF becors of pvp and we get *** over ind PVE after - --- i dont care for the pvp is just *** op the game - FIX the game and then com back to fix the rest --- and beside thes is not ar FPS gamer like COD or BF3, Warface, Dust514, Blacklight Retribution or eny of them - thes is Defiance and is ar MMO so - fix the pvp last

[BrassRazoo]

balance Weapon for PVP no way - u *** op the PvE of the game becors of pvp - is all ways like thes -- pvp cry and game get NEFFFF becors of pvp and we get *** over ind PVE after - --- i dont care for the pvp is just *** op the game - FIX the game and then com back to fix the rest --- and beside thes is not ar FPS gamer like COD or BF3, Warface, Dust514, Blacklight Retribution or eny of them - thes is Defiance and is ar MMO so - fix the pvp last

What the hell is that drivel?

[Arsenic_Touch]

Balance is not the issue. Small maps are the issue. How anyone at Trion thought that small maps would promote anything but shotguns is beyond me. We need pvp maps with objectives and big areas so other guns become feasible. Open area with a field, sniper's paradise. Shadow wars is how pvp should be done, minus non shadow war people showing up (they are annoying) with more events besides capture and hold. And more vehicles, gun batteries on top of building where you can mow down incoming players, et cetera.

Weapons should never be nerfed in pve based on pvp stats, seems like no matter the company devs don't get this.

[vagrant1]

The easiest fix for this then would be to have separate weapons, shield and grenades for pvp and pve where one cannot be used in the other.

[BrassRazoo]

Perhaps there are just too many weapons, mods, perks etc. to truly balance everything.
One of my favourite PvP games was the original Gears of War.
People will still argue about the Gnasher or Lancer / Chainsaw but at least there were only a handful of weapons to balance and it made for a very even field that did come down to skill.
As usual with so many variables people will find an "OP" combo and use it and others will follow.
This may sound boring but perhaps they could just have one standard variation of each weapon, then the rest could be done with perk / power combinations.
That may make it easier to balance as there are less weapons.

[B_Draco]

Balance is not the issue. Small maps are the issue. How anyone at Trion thought that small maps would promote anything but shotguns is beyond me. We need pvp maps with objectives and big areas so other guns become feasible. Open area with a field, sniper's paradise. Shadow wars is how pvp should be done, minus non shadow war people showing up (they are annoying) with more events besides capture and hold. And more vehicles, gun batteries on top of building where you can mow down incoming players, et cetera.

Weapons should never be nerfed in pve based on pvp stats, seems like no matter the company devs don't get this.

Yeah small maps are normally paradise for me -I'm a shotgun user in other PvP games- but honestly just two maps that are basically laid out like a silver platter for nothing BUT lazy shotgun spammers -also infector spammers-??? Freight Yard isn't much different, worse in fact because it's cloaker's galour and a slaughter house for infector and shotgun spammers... Hell, the infector spamming got so prolific Freight Yard got pulled, specifically due to infector spamming causing widespread freezing and system lock-outs on players playing Freight Yard.

[ArcTJ]

Yes if they don't nerf weapon:

- more variant maps, bigger, give reason to use some weapons other than shotgun and infectors
- Buff other weapon to be comparable with shotgun & infectors. AR buff damage up ? hello ?
- Separate weapon stats between pvp and pve

[Lukezordz]

balance Weapon for PVP no way - u *** op the PvE of the game becors of pvp - is all ways like thes -- pvp cry and game get NEFFFF becors of pvp and we get *** over ind PVE after - --- i dont care for the pvp is just *** op the game - FIX the game and then com back to fix the rest --- and beside thes is not ar FPS gamer like COD or BF3, Warface, Dust514, Blacklight Retribution or eny of them - thes is Defiance and is ar MMO so - fix the pvp last

I've been able to use this a lot lately.