I can't believe I got sucked in. This OP is a troll as I discovered when I looked over his posts in and out of this thread.
Should have recognised it earlier lol
I can't believe I got sucked in. This OP is a troll as I discovered when I looked over his posts in and out of this thread.
Should have recognised it earlier lol
I did, and I wasn't referring to you necessarily specifically, just the tendency to judge the cost of the outfits by many as being too high when compared to the DLC. As ironhands stated, prices are set based on demand, not based on effort.Originally Posted by IGears
In your case you likely just jumped the gun on your assessment of the price, an emotional reaction to the pricing I assume. In other's cases, I think they may not actually be informed that this is how prices are set.
Not sure why so many people are "shocked" when companies add paid DLC. It is the way games work now a days. A thread on forum is not going to change anything, people skipping paid DLC and companies losing money will. However that's not going to happen because people buy DLC. So yeah...
Yay DLC! Paid or otherwise!
I know...it confuses me.
They STILL get some of the DLC for free....but are shocked its not ALL free.
omg should we start writting you out paychecks every week for a job you dont work at? Why do so many people feel so entitled?? Did you people give up your left nut for this game or wha?
Defiance was sold for 22€ at some online stores.
BF, CoD and co are sold for 59€.
Now you complain about paying 30€/5= 6€ for a DLC....
(Which infact still is cheaper than BF and CoD DLCs...
That Trion game "SyFy Action MMO" that g4tv has on their site IS Defiance. That vid was from 2010 before the name had been finalized.
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Lowering the price for SOME types of products does increase demand. For Luxury goods. INCREASING the price often increases demand. See Giffen good for an explanation on why this is often so. BTW Cashshop item are for sure luxury goods.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giffen_good
Some people have a very narrow view of what constitutes Giffen goods so for them...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good
Mac - VBI Operative Proud Member of the Friends of Trick Dempsey Association
The few, the proud, the DEFIANT!
I just want to put things into proper perspective here.
The first big AAA MMO to offer the Buy to Play business model was Guild Wars 2, which released in late August of 2012. The box price was the same as Defiance. There is no subscription fee, but the game is supported by a cash shop. Unlike Defiance, you can actually convert in game currency into cash shop currency, so dedicated players can often buy some items from the shop with out spending cash, while people who have less time to spend playing and are willing to lay out some cash can get something worthwhile. (It's not a "Pay to Win" cash shop by any means, nor are cash shop items required to properly enjoy the game).
I've been playing GW2 since launch. I've already gotten 1,400 hours from it so far and there are still areas of the game world and content I haven't touched yet. Compare that to 40-80 hours before exhausting Defiance content and you can already see a huge disparity.
GW2 has also seen FREE monthly content additions every month since launch and continued improvement and new maps for it's PvP and World vs World systems as well. There has not yet been a paid DLC or any other game content you need to pay for. The total amount of free content added since launch is probably at least the equivalent of all the content Defiance shipped with for the same box price.
Just like everything with this game, it looks much better when judged as an online Third Person Shooter than it does as an MMO. Shooter fans may find the level of content and the DLCs on par with expectations. MMO fans can only find this game to be a thread bare offering with extremely little content and value for the box price.
I'd also point out that before release, Trion said that the DLCs would require purchase to unlock some items and rewards released in those DLC packs, but you would not need to buy the pack to actually participate in the new content. If that has changed, then they really misrepresented the role that DLCs would play for the community.
To say I'm disappointed with Trion would be an understatement.
"The difference is that you can usually bring your friends with you. The catch is that they can’t directly benefit from all of it, like DLC specific loot or gain abilities."
GW2 is also a very different game
Your Challenger won't drive? You're probably in the passenger seat.
Can't sell/delete an item? Check all of your loadouts, it's likely still equipped.
Auction house? Why? It'll just render bits purchased lock boxes pointless, and weapons are mostly equal anyway.
Gear/enemy progression? No thanks, it'll only render 90% of the content trivial when you reach the highest zone.
Well that's for sure. It's a game that offers more than 20X the content for the same retail box price, same lack of sub fee, but also offers free monthly content updates, rather than selling that content in DLCs.
As I said, Defiance looks a lot better when judged as an Online Third Person Shooter than as an MMO, on all grounds. When looking at how it holds up as an MMO, comparing it to GW2 is a very valid comparison, given that they are the two MMOs from AAA developers that have released with a Buy to Play business model.
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