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    why it takes time

    since a majority of the issues people are having keep creeping up and the reason it takes time if not months to fix said issues is because there are thousands/millions line of code that have to be checked and rechecked to find the issue. then when the issue found and repaired because of one code being changed could throw off the dynamic of a different line of code that is reliant on the first that caused the bug. so for instance say they fix the reload glitch, you reload perfectly each time, yet because of that change for your proper reload would inadvertently cause an issue with the gun firing. say you reload right but each time you fire whether its a lmg smg bmg or even a single shot carbine/ sniper rifle your clip empties. it is not easy to track down the true cause of a bug or all that link to the original issue. they are known as "semantic errors " in coding, the game works the code works and the compiler finds 0 errors . the code is correct as far as the computers/consoles are concerned but when they are accessed does not do what was originally intended. for example the reload issue people are having could be a result of a line of code which basically would state "interrupt reload with critical hit" so you would have to avoid taking a critical hit to reload, simple enough , should work. yet because of the semantics in that section of code could inadvertently cause when you take any damage or interaction from a weapon or enemy that instead of just interrupting you get interrupted and instead of the clip being replaced in your reserve ammo a section of code for clip recovery might have been inadvertently left out.

    so the people who are willing to wait understand that it takes time even if not the details. and like was stated before in this post " if it is unplayable don't play it "
    although trion released their game with bugs( happens a lot ) they delayed dlc to make sure that the game issues would be fixed.

    dont sell the game short because you are annoyed, give them the time they need to finish what was started to polish their work and then expand it .

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    I don't know if it will actually cause anymore problems, but I just found it funny they said the problem with freight, like you said Jester, was too much infector spam. Then about a week later they give everyone infector grenades. Hopefully this means they already solved the problem freight.

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    3 dev's coding in an old closet can only do so much guys give them a break. What really needs to happen is Trion needs to get a few more devs on the team to help finish the game

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    All I hear is excuses! For those of us that value our money that we put into games it is unacceptable to wait weeks even months for them to fix a game that should have had only minor issues when it released. I enjoy the game but I will not sit here and act as if I'm not slightly pissed that simple issues haven't been resolved! If you like wasting your money then that is fine but don't come and comment on my post when you may not be experiencing the same issues I and countless others are having! I simply find it unacceptable for developers to continue every year to rip us as consumers off on a broken game that we pay good money for!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwa1219 View Post
    All I hear is excuses! For those of us that value our money that we put into games it is unacceptable to wait weeks even months for them to fix a game that should have had only minor issues when it released. [...] If you like wasting your money then that is fine but don't come and comment on my post when you may not be experiencing the same issues I and countless others are having! I simply find it unacceptable for developers to continue every year to rip us as consumers off on a broken game that we pay good money for!
    Those that value their money may also wish to do some research on a product themselves before spending that hard-earned money on something. There's dozens of reviews out there pretty much all saying the same thing about the game when it came out. And if you bought the game sight-unseen before it was released, well, that's a gamble you take whenever you pre-order something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Jester View Post
    Really guys.. These tiring old arguments....

    First off, it's not going to be months or even a month.. The big 1.20 patch is coming this month.. then DLC soon behind it.. We don't know what will be in all those fixes but we all have a pretty good idea based on what they've been talking about... You all act like you're all in the dark or something... ****.. if it is that unplayable to you.. Then don't play it.. Play something else, then come back and check this game out.. if you want..

    Secondly, They were tied into a T.V Show and probably got pressed for time and had to make some quick decisions on what to get stabilized.. and for the most part.. I think they have done a fine job and been very prompt about rolling out fixes and communicating with the community....

    Think about this for one second... Many games have seen worse launches or just as bad... Those games were not on as a crucial of a deadline and could of been pushed back at least a few months if needed... I highly doubt it was their choice to roll it out this early and I'm sure that is why they released a public apology. A public apology to us the gamers.. that's unheard of...

    Could you imagine the state of the game if it was under control of say SOE or FUNCOM....

    Now.. In a month or two, we don't start seeing some major changes.. Which they've already talked extensively about... but.. if they don't deliver.. then I would start worrying. Also, once again imo, they have been rolling things out fairly quickly.

    Did anyone mention they are doing this across three platforms?

    The game is very playable.. Yes, it has some annoying bugs.. Many have already been patched, we are just waiting for that patch... like the re-load bug and freight (again)..

    I don't think they anticipated everyone on both teams using infectors... so really I blame the players and it does make Freight Yard a pretty unappealing map due to infector spam everywhere. Really not sure why people are so sad it's gone other than being unable to complete pursuits... Maybe if everyone didn't spam infectors on that particular map it would be different..
    Not going to be a month? You are one of the fools I speak of, the game has been out well over one month...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Raven80 View Post
    Not going to be a month? You are one of the fools I speak of, the game has been out well over one month...
    What the hell are you talking about.. I said the 1.20 patch is coming this month.. so no.. it wont take a month.. it will be 2 weeks or less.. Then the DLC soon after (hopefully)...

    Try again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Jester View Post
    What the hell are you talking about.. I said the 1.20 patch is coming this month.. so no.. it wont take a month.. it will be 2 weeks or less.. Then the DLC soon after (hopefully)...

    Try again.
    Has been out more than a month seems pretty self explanatory to me. Maybe that is what is wrong with fools, inability to keep track of time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Raven80 View Post
    Has been out more than a month seems pretty self explanatory to me. Maybe that is what is wrong with fools, inability to keep track of time...
    Obviously you lack any type of comprehension skills and continue to call me a fool. I never once said how long the game was out in relevance to the upcoming patch.. I simply stated it would be less than two weeks for the 1.20 patch to hit that will fix many of the "unplayable bugs" that people moronically believe have been put on the back burner.. When they said they have already found fixes and they will be included in one of the upcoming patches if they don't roll some of the smaller patches all up into 1.2...

    Yes the exploit relating to Arkfalls needed to be fixed.. only kids will cry about it.. As any mature or reasonable person can see clearly why they have approached that particular problem.. It is affecting everyone's game play..

    I'm sure they know a lot better than any of you what is going on with their game and what needs priority... Some things are minor easy fixes while some may take more work or affect other areas of game play.

    Because they are not fixing what you want right now (even though many of the complaints in this thread has been addressed MULTIPLE times..) You all find something to ***** about...

    The simple fact is.. if you don't like how they are doing things.. just leave.. go.. no one is holding you here.. I doubt they are going to start changing how they are doing things now.. I'm satisfied with how they are handling things.. More satisfied with them than most companies I've had the unpleasurable experience of doing business with.
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    You quoted my first post which was basically the game has gotten worse since launch, I could care less about the eta of dlc. The game is broken and their "patches" have for the most part made things worse. At launch everyone said give it a month, well we have passed that mark plus some and it is more unplayable now than at launch...

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