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  1. #11
    Raising the price of something isn't a nerf. Yeesh...

    That said, to somebody who has quit the game none of the changes matter. So yeah any change they make only matters to the people who are still playing.

  2. #12
    The raising of the prices wasn't a nerf. It's the cost of convenience. I did nothing but store hop around the map for two days to get my plumb crazy challenger. If all I have to do now when scouting for a new vehicle to purchase is check two stores every so often the cost is well worth it.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Rexx Havoc View Post
    I have really enjoyed Defiance since release... But I have watched 30+ friends (most of my clan) just stop playing after week 1 and 2...

    The nerf to Vehicle Vendors specials, and the like, are starting to wear on the existing (remaining!) player base... No, the community can only shrink from here and from a business standpoint, I do NOT understand Trion's efforts to make anything more difficult or more of a grind.
    Won't happen. They didn't wake up during pre launch about issues, they won't wake up now that they've already gotten money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin CarMichael View Post
    Raising the price of something isn't a nerf. Yeesh...

    That said, to somebody who has quit the game none of the changes matter. So yeah any change they make only matters to the people who are still playing.
    That isn't even close to what I said or what you, yourself, had said. I don't think a sober person could make that egregious an error, so please stop drunk-posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToneSim View Post
    The raising of the prices wasn't a nerf. It's the cost of convenience. I did nothing but store hop around the map for two days to get my plumb crazy challenger. If all I have to do now when scouting for a new vehicle to purchase is check two stores every so often the cost is well worth it.
    You looked at the patch notes but didn't compare vendor prices, huh?

    The special prices now are the non-discounted prices from before, because they doubled the base cost. That's the part that was left out of the patch notes.

    In other words, what it would have cost you before to buy it for full price the moment you showed up at the regular vendor is now the special price you have to wait/check for. There is zero convenience gained, compared to your situation, and the price remains higher.

  6. #16
    Really, you know better than I do what I consider convenient? And yes, I am aware that all the prices went up. Again I consider it the cost of convenience. I don't have to run all over creation to find my vehicle, in exchange they are more expensive. Makes perfect sense. Besides, who isn't swimming in scrip by now? Something to actually spend it on is welcome.

  7. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiserai View Post
    That isn't even close to what I said or what you, yourself, had said. I don't think a sober person could make that egregious an error, so please stop drunk-posting.
    Just because you drunk post and can't understand what people say doesn't mean that everybody does. Stop drinking, and stop projecting your failings on to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToneSim View Post
    Really, you know better than I do what I consider convenient? And yes, I am aware that all the prices went up. Again I consider it the cost of convenience. I don't have to run all over creation to find my vehicle, in exchange they are more expensive. Makes perfect sense. Besides, who isn't swimming in scrip by now? Something to actually spend it on is welcome.
    What I am saying is that, for the same cost, you could have bought it at full price by walking up to one place. There is no meaningful definition of the word "convenient" in which checking multiple times for a chance of something is more convenient than just getting it the first time for exactly the same cost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin CarMichael View Post
    Just because you drunk post and can't understand what people say doesn't mean that everybody does. Stop drinking, and stop projecting your failings on to others.
    You used "somebody who has quit the game none of the changes matter. So yeah any change they make only matters to the people who are still playing" in explanation of "if you are going to keep playing the game it really doesn't matter how much they cost". If that makes sense to you, something has gone horribly wrong.

    I can't tell if these replies are an indictment of official forums or our education system, but holy schtako

  9. #19
    And FYI the also messed with the Challengers. I have all the variants except the red (did not preorder) and now there hit point and DMG are all different. Also there hit points have been cut by close to half.

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiserai View Post

    You used "somebody who has quit the game none of the changes matter. So yeah any change they make only matters to the people who are still playing" in explanation of "if you are going to keep playing the game it really doesn't matter how much they cost". If that makes sense to you, something has gone horribly wrong.

    I can't tell if these replies are an indictment of official forums or our education system, but holy schtako
    You are drunk, go home. Clearly you can't follow more than 1 point at a time, it's sad.... You didn't understand my point from the start and went off on a weird tangent to it that wasn't part of the post.

    This was my entire original point...

    Considering there is no other use for script and all vehicles are the exact same copies of the base vehicle they look like with paint jobs, if you are going to keep playing the game it really doesn't matter how much they cost.
    This has nothing to do with people who have quit, and I have no idea why you pulled that into it in the first place.

    There is NO real use for script. Other than buying paint jobs for your vehicles so if you keep playing the game eventually you'll have so much script that it doesn't matter how high the cost of the paint jobs are because you'll be able to afford them all as there is *no other use for script*.

    This post...

    That said, to somebody who has quit the game none of the changes matter. So yeah any change they make only matters to the people who are still playing.
    Wasn't a defense of my first post, but a response to your bizarre musings about people who had quit the game.

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