Borderlands = Defiance

[Danzaiver]

I thought I read/heard somewhere that horses were specifically left out of the Defiance world. It was in one of the Dev videos, so I'm sure the subject may have been brought up to them at some point.

Aww man, maybe we could get a saddle on one of those weird boars i keep seeing around.

[Defy]

well they are both have weapons and you shoot stuff

but thats common to all shooters

these are two completely different games

[GameGravitation]

This game is definitely original and borrows traits from awesome games we I like to play. I have never played Rift but Torchlight 2 is cool.

[Snowgoons]

Probably because both of those have had countless movies, shows, comics and things like that tied to them already.

You don't really need to advertise for things that already have MASSIVE followings.

It's not all about advertising tho! Defiance seems like both sides of the spectrum put their heart into the product.

Look at the recent The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct game. It's not horrible, but definitely not great. Playing it I didn't ask myself questions like: "Oh I wonder what's gonna happen to Rick and if they are going to go in depth about what just happened in the game on the show next week"

Where as with Defiance I am going to be running to my TV to figure out clues and find out how other characters in the world that my own MMO character exist in are doing.

I mean the way Star Wars and DC Universe did their MMO's is like if Defiance was all about going to planets and fighting aliens and called Starship Troopers. Just because there was a movie back in the day doesn't really do much for the MMO today IMHO.

We are in an information age where we have access to some sort of screen almost all of the time. Someone may see the show and join the game, but really the game to me is icing on the cake. It is a complete package and if written well, will be a huge treat.

All I was saying is that Star Wars and DCUO missed this opportunity completely. DCUO had a comic that was related to the game then it just vanished as far as I know. Even that was cool but a cartoon would have been awesome. A cartoon as good as the 90's X-men cartoon was.

I mean imagine if The Elder Scrolls Online was actually called the Game of Thrones MMORPG and it all tied in with the currently airing show. It would just make it that much cooler. Instead of feeling separated gaming on your computer/console you almost feel like your choices matter.

I could talk hours about how f'ing awesome it is to see the show bundled with the MMO. I mean imagine if the choices of the majority of players influences the ending of a season? I don't think I could imagine any MMO without it's own tv show/movie/cartoon/whatever again!

I just don't see going and re-reading old DC comics or watching old Star Wars movies then playing those games the same at all.

Perhaps that is just me, just my 2 cents.

[Zephoria]

I loved both borderlands its about the only fps I can stand for more the 30 minutes...but when I saw this I though borderlands+third person shooter=WIN

[TRAP]

Defiance has a ton more going for it than Borderlands though. Borderlands devs should have woke up for Borderlands 2 and made it this, or at least on par with the Borderlands feeling portions of Defiance.

Break it down:

Defiance driving is awesome
Borderlands driving sucks.

Defiance tons of players
Borderlands four...

Defiance rift like Arkfalls
Borderlands no arkfalls

Defiance great instant open world mass pvp
Borderlands ..duels?

It's Borderlands own fault someone came and took something cool and added upon it making it way better. Borderlands can't even touch Defiance's beta IMHO. I loved Borderlands 1, 2 was just not that big of a leap.

How I feel is: Defiance = Borderlands, Tabula Rasa, Diablo, Rift, and much more combined into a super game + the addition of a well written show to tie in with the game.

Borderlands devs missed this opportunity, hell the whole world pretty much did. Trion stepped up and is owning the market. People not even interested in the game might get interested through the TV show. It's perfect marketing and not just rushed nonsense.

The Walking Dead should have done this too. I was having a chat with a buddy there are just so many games or TV shows that should have done this. Don't get me started with Star Wars. Why their MMO didn't have a cartoon or something is beyond me. Same with DC Universe, should have had a show or cartoon.

Shrug

I couldn't agree more with everything you said. Aslong as the mics are fixed and the inviting system are fixed and a few other bugs then its a wrap.

[PapaMudd]

I dunno Borderlands 2 had a very fun campaign and guns galore. When you play online with other people you are working together, the only time that happens often in the beta (which will most likely change) is during arkfalls. I mean this game is pretty damn easy, I don't see any real challenge here, and some of the some can get real dry and boring due to lack of challenge.

I'm sure a Borderlands MMO is on the way in 2-3 years, but will be on next gen consoles. I think defiance with the dynamic events and linking to a tv series offers more than almost every other game out there for something being fresh, but honestly with ps4 and destiny coming out soon I find myself wondering if I really want to invest my time in this game when something better is around the corner. Perhaps if this game would come out for PS4 as well with crossplay then I would definately get it as it is a great casual MMO so far.

@snowgoons I think you are onto something there

[A s0t]

well they are both have weapons and you shoot stuff

but thats common to all shooters

these are two completely different games

Borderlands 2 is BROKEN and will stay broken
Defiance is in BETA and Trion is fixing it

[traitorer]

After reading this thread all I have to add is I like both games and said that defiance feels to me like a cross between fallout and borderlands. Shoot even the "lawman" looks like the cop from megaton to me. Now I do like defiance better and have traded in borderland GOTY edition and borderlands 2 to pay for defiance preorder

[Dayrec]

Anyone else notice the ironclad shield. I personally thought it was a shoutout to borderlands lol.