Massive Layoffs At Trion Today? Defiance Affected?

[CptBadger]

I have been involved in several 'RIFs (Reduction in Force) / layoffs over my career in the Valley. Rarely have I seen a round of layoffs improve the job performance of those still on the job. You end up with fewer people to do the needed work, many in new assignments who need time to get up to speed, most are sad for friends who were cut, and many others have started looking for another job, 'just in case'. In my experience layoffs are about cutting costs, NOT about improving job performance.

Of course they are ALL about cutting costs. Everything else is just plain PR bs.

[Unhappy Gamer]

[Victim Eyes]

Yes some of our team members did get let go today, but the support for Defiance will remain moving forward.

you need a hundred folks in order for the ship to cast off, but only a handful to keep it afloat...

sad really. i feel bad for the many that caught the shaft. politics in the workplace... i hope they all get paid off and not just dumped.

[CptBadger]

Layoffs? NOOO! Poor people , I wish them all the best in finding another job.
Damn economic crisis *rant rant rant* banks *rant rant rant* current system broken *rant rant rant*. I could rant some more but it won't do anything...

Economic crisis ? It has NOTHING to do with it. However a 66/100 metascore might. Just a thought bro.

[Ctrain]

Economic crisis ? It has NOTHING to do with it. However a 66/100 metascore might. Just a thought bro.

Alot of players don't want to even consider the possibility this game may not make it. Like everything else bias plays a large part. The only difference between me and alot of thoose who think everything is just fine is that a long time ago I realized that refusing to consider all possibilities in the hope the one you don't wan't doesn't turn out to be true doesn't make things better. it makes them worse because you won't be ready to deal with the reality of a situation until it is upon you and you can no longer deny it to yourself.

[Victim Eyes]

Economic crisis ? It has NOTHING to do with it. However a 66/100 metascore might. Just a thought bro.

66 b/c it was reviewed by "pro" critics too early. this game has made huge improvements since its release.

those critics should have known better then to write those scores in stone. the people, as a whole, like this game. thats what matters in the end. its politics man! HELLO REAL WORLD!!

[Ctrain]

66 b/c it was reviewed by "pro" critics too early. this game has made huge improvements since its release.

those critics should have known better than to write those scores in stone. the people as a whole like this game. that's what matters in the end.

In server and client stability the game has made many improvements. In most other ares, not really. Case and point. My mass cannon which would be my primary weapon does not gain exp STILL over a month after release. What makes this worse is apparently the Hydra preorder bonus r/l is suffering the same bug. We have a boatload of issues just like that and there laying off staff before getting them sorted.

As for your point about it being reviewed too early. Well that's a really good argument for NOT releasing buggy software with extremely late cycle/short beta testing. Allmost all of those server issues could have been sorted before launch had the Beta tests been done sooner then they were and longer with better notice given for the dates so as to improve participation.

[Viryu]

It just hit me how the topic of the week is going to be the mass firing inside the studio, and not about the game itself. Meh, they had it coming for avoiding communicating with the players and being so cryptic. If they said something like "hey, since the game was released, we're leaving the staff necessary to make patches and DLCs and other content, while we move the rest to other incoming games." See? I'd understand that. What I don't understand is the "hide all information and avoid communication" strategy.

[Ctrain]

It just hit me how the topic of the week is going to be the mass firing inside the studio, and not about the game itself. Meh, they had it coming for avoiding communicating with the players and being so cryptic. If they said something like "hey, since the game was released, we're leaving the staff necessary to make patches and DLCs and other content, while we move the rest to other incoming games." See? I'd understand that. What I don't understand is the "hide all information and avoid communication" strategy.

Theres just one problem though. There not moving them to anything. There just canning them outright. One would think they could find holes to fill and not need many layoffs. The fact they can't is troubling for the studio as a whole.

There was a game called 10six like 12+ years ago. They disabled the longterm subscriptions in the store and gave no explanation. I called doom and gloom and got flamed down. a few weeks later the games end of service was announced and the "techs" admitted Sega had gagged them to max sales before it ended. Amazingly one of the techs somehow aqquired the rights and to this day runs the game as project visitor from a server rack in his house. Point is don't assume they can or will tell you anything. Unless they say point-blank there are no plans to shut it down then anything can happen.

[Viryu]

Theres just one problem though. There not moving them to anything. There just canning them outright. One would think they could find holes to fill and not need many layoffs. The fact they can't is troubling for the studio as a whole.

You have a point, true. It's the more troubling that those are the people which worked on Defiance. I'm not surprised after the horrid reviews everywhere, but I can't help but be sceptic about the timeline and content of future patches and DLCs now.