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    Oh OP, I totally understand. The people who supported this game from day one are the ones who are responsible? What an utter load of ****e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrarkhunter View Post
    I will not be wrong, feel free to bump this in 6 months if I am.

    Game studios do not layoff if they are doing well. Trion is about to crash if they do not get the proper funding from their projects and currently defiance is what they are playing all their cards into and it has been a massive failure to this point.
    Also I could be wrong, because obviously I don't have any inside info, but it is not uncommon for staff to be laid off after a launch. A lot of companies launch with a big staff to get them through a launch. As I said though I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwa View Post
    Let's all remember Trion was proud about doing what other studios were not doing after the launch of Rift: they kept their development team on board to provide updates.

    Had Defiance done better on the market (and had the service been good enough to do better on the market) I sincerely doubt we'd see such drastic action taken by Trion today.
    Thing is - we don't know that. Games sell well, and teams still get laid off. Happens all the time.

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    Fanboys are not at fault here. quite silly for that statement to even have been posted. I love the game but feel the issues came strongly from the lack of marketing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwa View Post
    Neither the fanboys or the anti-fanboys are to blame for the layoffs today.

    The poor reception and crashing sales, along with the poor quality of service of Defiance is to blame for the layoffs today.
    Good God man are you mad? You're using logic and intelligence on a gaming forum. Cease and desist immediately!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RegularX View Post
    Thing is - we don't know that. Games sell well, and teams still get laid off. Happens all the time.
    I'm not saying we do know it. But if Defiance had somehow sold 10 million copies, I sincerely doubt we'd be hearing rumors of the Defiance studio being "obliterated" today.

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    Unfortunately for your explanation, that is not how MBAs work. Yes, devoted developers do work that way. MBAs however just cut everything, take the cash they made, and move on to the next investment.
    Negative press (and no, not your complaints on the forum. Nothing on these forums even enters management's view unless it is quoted in the press.) works for performance art, and about nothing else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrarkhunter View Post
    Fanboys are responsible for the layoffs at Tron and if they do not change their attitude they will be responsible for the closure of the entire studio.

    Why?

    It's simple.

    Take for example this weeks tv show tie in content.

    Fanboys are praising the 30min worth of content and how awesome and epic it was! While the rest of us were very disappointed.

    Let's be realistic your average gamer who does not visit these forums is not going to be entertained with 30min worth of content none of which is unqiue. So what happens? They slowly begin to play less and less as there is nothing new to offer. Then bam you fanboys come on the forum and praise Trion for a wonderful job and they think what they created was enough to satisfy and continue upon their mediocre path.

    Maybe you just still don't understand let me explain again...

    Blindly supporting anything and everything Trion does with Defiance not help this game.

    You may call me a troll or you may call me negative but I want to push Trion to make the best game possible. They need honest feedback and we will NEVER see improvements if you keep up the fanboy behavior.

    It's okay to like the game but not pushing the developer to create and deliver upon a better experience will get us all no where.

    Mark my words this forum has some of the biggest fanboy behavior I have ever witnessed. Defiance is a game that is in POOR condition right now and fanboys can keep hiding the fact and kill Defiance the game and Trion the game studio.

    Or you start being honest and pushing Trion to actually improve the quality of this game and watch them prosper.

    The choice is yours...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwa View Post
    Neither the fanboys or the anti-fanboys are to blame for the layoffs today.

    The poor reception and crashing sales, along with the poor quality of service of Defiance is to blame for the layoffs today.
    I think they probably inflated the Development / QA team to complete the game in time for the TV Show schedule. Now that they don't need all those boots on the ground they got rid of them.

    The remaining staffers are hopefully going to be more manageable and they will start doing a better more focused job. I am sure there was a lot of overhead in just managing a large staff-base and maybe some of the staffers were causing more problems for the quality of the product than they were fixing.

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    Layoffs are normal after a game release. Sadly, the tinfoil hat crowd always flocks to the forums to start threads like this.


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