Today's gamers.

[Gabrielle]

Waves to Mryia!!! Yay I was worried I was in a sea of 20somethings - feeling old.

I must say though - at least my friends and my "people" the kids today - we nerds and geeks - ARE actually quite amazing little engineers. I am not talking the vast population but they never were. I have friends you tell me how to do things before I get a chance to sit down (yeah I am looking at you Gabrielle).

Wut? What did I do now? I was here eating and reading, I thought you were seated the whole time

[LattoMac]

Aging myself here, but, wow, I used to have a couple of these. On a Tandy lmao.

>use club

/e pushes the troll down and stomps on his face before running off into the forest.

[Jax Bane]

Aging myself here, but, wow, I used to have a couple of these. On a Tandy lmao.

>use club

You entered a Haunted Castle, you can move N,S, or E.

/n

You have been killed by an Evil Dog!

Game Over!

[Covington]

I'm waiting for Lupus to come back to his thread... "WTH did you guys do?" Sorry Lupus!

[chrismeyer34]

You know, a month ago I would have been in complete agreement with this topic. I have certainly thought it myself many times over the years.

But in the last few weeks I have been playing Final Fantasy 3 again. This is a 20 year old game, that I fondly remember as one of my favorite games of all time. But to be fair, in retrospect, when I originally played it all of those years ago, I had a strategy guide for it. This time around, I figured that I am a much better and more experienced gamer these days. I am sure I can just figure out everything without resorting to guides!

Well, I managed to get a good 20+ hours into the game before I stopped and realized that I NEEDED to start looking up info on this game. These older games aren't constructed the way modern games are. One of the big problems I have run into while playing FF3 again, was an extreme lack of information. There are tons of items, spells and other abilities that have special functionality, but the game gives you zero information on them. The best you can do is try them and make a best guess at what exactly they do.

And then there is the simple matter of roadblocks in the content. I seriously reached a point in FF3, where I simply could not progress forward. I had no idea where to go next. The next several dungeons I needed to clear were a little too well hidden.

So, while I do agree with trying to figuring things for yourself, there is a limit. I agree that a lot of today's games do a bit too much hand-holding (defiance's waypoints come to mind). And it's worth understanding that older games were not that well designed, even our old favorites. Those games weren't nearly as high budget as games are today, and they weren't playtested like games are today.

thats why when i play that game i always write down key words, locations as well as their description, miss those kinds of games, then when i saved i would right down where i saved and where i needed to go next when i picked it back up...those games really made you think, and thats why i miss them so much, i got a couple of them from the psn store, chrono trigger, ff8, ff4, simcity 2000 etc, etc...

[Covington]

Raise your hand if you have a "Gaming notebook" for the above mentioned reasons, doodle art, character art, your stats (cause we seriously needed to see them) and well like I said "the notebook". I know I still have a few of mine around.

[Zabuza]

agreed, this is what i said earlier to him...if you dont want to use your noodle then play a game that doesnt require the use of it, told him about the different genre's of games out there. maybe he didnt understand, he might have to google it to comprehend it...thats what i do, im constantly looking for new games to add to my collection, i watch vids look up ratings...hell i was stoked about the aliens: colonial marines game, was gonna preorder it...then i saw there was a lawsuit against sega? about how the game wasnt what was expected...glad i did the mature thing and looked it up instead of doing what ramano would do and buy the game w/o doing any research of any kind, only to find out it was totally the opposite of what i was expecting and therefore was a complete waste of money...so i agree completely with your post, more people need to do research before buying a game to see if it fits into their no brainer mentality of gaming, if you want a casual game then dont buy a puzzle game that will require hrs or a month or 2 to complete and if you do, then dont get on threads and gripe about stuff

I am curious. Are you typing everything on a phone?
I see this headache-inducing format (Please don't take this as insult) from a few other users. If your on a phone responding I understand why it is that way.

[chrismeyer34]

I am curious. Are you typing everything on a phone?
I see this headache-inducing format (Please don't take this as insult) from a few other users. If your on a phone responding I understand why it is that way.

uh no lol, im on my laptop, why?

[chrismeyer34]

Raise your hand if you have a "Gaming notebook" for the above mentioned reasons, doodle art, character art, your stats (cause we seriously needed to see them) and well like I said "the notebook". I know I still have a few of mine around.

definitely have a couple from way back packed away somewhere lol

[Xero18999]

Yes, there are very few games that offer challenges. There are a few I remember way back when I was a kid. I had my first NINTENDO, Contra was a pain in my *****, However I had a hate for Cobra Triangle even more. There are some other games that are newer that do offer some challenges. Halo excluding 4, as it is not hard to solo anything on legendary if you have beaten the rest solo on legendary. Oh who remembers Blades of Time... Its a decent game not to hard but can offer a challenge if you do not game a lot. I do like the fight mechanics though its over the top. for the PSX Parasite Eve, the final boss was a pin in the butt.