Today's gamers.

[chrismeyer34]

That's why even when a game could be beaten in 2-4 hours, people would spend days-weeks on it. Those started to dwindle after the SNES and Genesis left the market. With the PS1 there were still games like that.....but they started thinning out.
But the developers did start to shy away from them due to "increasing market potential". They figured quick easy games would sell to more people.
This was also in part due to lack of original ideas.



Hey, I'm not old.....yet.......maybe.......
I still act like a kid sometimes.......reading manga, playing video games, watching anime, wait..........I still remember the first anime transitions to the US and not using a computer for HS reports........crap that means I AM old........

ah, my 1st anime when i was a kid was akira, still in my opinion 1 of the greatest animes ever lol, and im 35, the cool thing about that anime was we were living in yokosuka, japan at the time and my lil brother was born in 88', so i have a very strong sentimental pull to that anime, but then you had bubblegum crisis and ninja scroll, ghost in the shell was a great 1 too, damn i hope people dont see me as old lmfao

[Facade]

Bottom right one was awesome.

I can just imagine some kid spending 30-40min shooting the statue getting incredibly frustrated.

[Sdric]

100% true.

I miss games like DMC 1-3 which were truely difficult - but fun to play.
Hell, today's gamers are even too dumb for FF Tactics or Advance Wars!
Thus forcing great titles to be discontinued.

People have become lazy, they don't want a game, they want movies with linear walking passages.

Publishers like EA figured that out.
Why waste 2 years of developement on a good game when you can sell a movie for 60€ per year and additional 45€ for DLCs?

[Random]

I have been thinking for awhile on this.


We old gamers are lying our ***** off.


1. We had guides in paper.
2. We had usenet since forever.
3. The net was around in the early 90's arguably the greatest era in gaming history (for now).
4. We had Brady.
5. We had gamegenie.
6. We had action replay.


It's not like there was an information blackout on games, nintendo power had full level guides, game pro was the same.
As a matter of fact lets not act like it was uphill both ways.

Games were simplistic back then. The course of action was generally obvious however it explained itself in the "Details" of the game. And that is where modern games lack. They have to scream at you to do a barrel roll over and over again until you flip out and kill that f------ing frog.

Usually it forced us to do a barrel roll or die in the first wave, after doing that a few times we learned. That is the only difference. We're trial and error players, they cannot be made to be trial and error and that is why in general a gamer of this generation will be suckier than the last so on and so forth. I still consider space invader pro's and pac man pro's to be the the best. But that's because I've played these games so many times and on hard...they really are harder than the hardest game.

[chrismeyer34]

Great games used to provide you with a nice cloth world map, and knew that you'd provide the pencils and a pad of graph paper to make your own maps of the dungeons.

The Quake video was sublime. We're old.

hey i use to use graph paper and make maps with the old castlevania games lmao, i use to do that so i wouldnt forget where secret passages were and all

[baelrusk]

I can't remember what ones they were, but a genius developer came up with an anti-cheat game cheat.
They had some really awesome cheat codes that gave things like infinite ammo, infinite lives, etc... but when you used one you didn't find out the bad part until the very end. Using ANY cheat even once, would mark your game. The game acted normally until the very last boss. When that fight started ALL cheats deactivated and the boss was increased to uber hard. Even if you managed to beat it, you got a "Thank you for cheating" screen. I wish I could remember what one it was.....


Now that I think about it, a bit of trivia:
"What was the first video that had Mario (from Mario Bros)?"
.........oh and for bonus points:
"What was Mario's original name in that game before he was renamed Mario?"

[SteveMND]

There are tons of items, spells and other abilities that have special functionality, but the game gives you zero information on them. The best you can do is try them and make a best guess at what exactly they do.

I think you missed the point right there: that was one of the things you were expected to do. Discovering what a potion did? Mix one up and see! Not sure what a magic sword did? Equip it and find out! Etc., etc.

A lot of people just don't have the time to do that sort of stuff anymore now -- especially with the wonderfully-helpful internet around (the third major change in how things operate since the agricultural and industrial revolutions). We're literally straddling the line of one of the three most significant changes in human history to date.

That's gotta make changes in the way people think about things.

[chrismeyer34]

Bottom right one was awesome.

I can just imagine some kid spending 30-40min shooting the statue getting incredibly frustrated.

and then crying " they made this game too hard, this game sucks, moooooooom!!! can i get an easier game!!!!? "

[Schmiznurf]

I will only resort to the internet when I have gone through the game and thought I searched everywhere but am missing some things, or when I have spent ages trying to figure a puzzle out and my wife can't figure it out either.
Otherwise I try and do everything myself, although it's been a while since a game has been really challenging.

[shutchamouth]

I'm going to play devils advocate, We as older gamers didnt have google, but we had up down up down left right left right b a start. You know what Im talking about. We were GODS when we wanted to be. Lazy too lol

-yaK